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    Posted: 12 May 2020 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by orchester orchester wrote:

Originally posted by switcher switcher wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/f8zf1k/my_guide_to_amd_ryzen_asrock_motherboard_problems/

Check this guide. Seems to fix exactly that issue for a lot of people.


I honestly did not understand most of what they disccused on that thread , though I tried to changing the voltages as one person said that worked for him, it did not work on mine.


I had same problem. I changed SOC and both VDDG voltages and it disappeared. Now I don't have any boot loops and my bios settings aren't reset on a boot after a night.

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I have noticed that sometimes the problem stems from other settings being left on Auto such as SOC and VDDG Voltages. I Originally suggested at least 1.08-1.1 for soc However I have since found with the correct ram settings in place I can run 1.05 on SOC and 1.03 on VDDG voltages with no loss of performance. Never run your VDDG higher than SOC you will cause loss of performance. The only way to truly test what an ok voltage is to run a cinebench if you run one on auto voltages then another on lower voltages you should see no difference in performance. Also note that the boot order sometimes tends to forget itself. Make sure you have only the drive you want to boot from in the boot order if you have an Boot Partition left over on an old SSD and get rid of it.


you can read more here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/g4dym1/b450_pro4_bootloops_and_uefi_settings/
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I know the issue now, I actually turn off my UPS and my AVR right before I sleep, thus it cuts all the voltage to my CPU, after further experimentation, changing the RAM speeds and timings then leaving the UPS on does not result in double boot.

Thank you so much for the help everyone!
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

its still failing ram training

this is a cold boot issue
why this is happening is
when cold the ram isnt stable, on first cold boot its failing ram training/stability due to the ram being colder and not getting enough voltage in post
when in windows its warm running and getting nice smooth higher voltage

when you cold start it its not hence the boot loop and reset

options are
select slower ram speed and/or looser timings

or

configure it windows stable and SAVE THE PROFILE IN BIOS

either way manually setting all configuration is a needless waste of time


Thank you so much
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its still failing ram training

this is a cold boot issue
why this is happening is
when cold the ram isnt stable, on first cold boot its failing ram training/stability due to the ram being colder and not getting enough voltage in post
when in windows its warm running and getting nice smooth higher voltage

when you cold start it its not hence the boot loop and reset

options are
select slower ram speed and/or looser timings

or

configure it windows stable and SAVE THE PROFILE IN BIOS

either way manually setting all configuration is a needless waste of time
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote orchester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2020 at 8:46am
Originally posted by switcher switcher wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/f8zf1k/my_guide_to_amd_ryzen_asrock_motherboard_problems/

Check this guide. Seems to fix exactly that issue for a lot of people.


I honestly did not understand most of what they disccused on that thread , though I tried to changing the voltages as one person said that worked for him, it did not work on mine.
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Originally posted by ThreeDee ThreeDee wrote:

you can try manually setting to 3200 and voltage to 1.35 (not XMP profile) and everything else to auto and if that works ... try a little faster or go down to 3000. Your RAM isn't on the QVL so you are only going to get what you get.

..and I'm assuming you have the RAM in slots A2/B2?

I've had pretty good luck with Ryzen 3000 series and non-QVL RAM (3 setups all running XMP profiles or faster) .. I had to run my RAM slower on same motherboards with last gen CPU's. You could get different RAM or you might have a dud memory controller on your 3600, so try another chip if these are all new parts and can be returned/exchanged.

My other setups:
Asrock B350 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/AC w/ 2 x 16gb 3000mhz stuff carried over from my older 7700k build and a 3600x. Would only do 2866 with 2700x.

ASRock X470 Master SLI/ac before I upgraded to the x570 Steel Legend ran the 2700x with 4 sticks of 3200mhz RGB stuff at 3000mhz until I upgraded to the 3700x .. then I could run all 4 sticks at 3200mhz. Current rig in sig.

Asus B350 Prime w/ 4 x 3200 RGB stuff and a 3400g. System would crash with 4 sticks and a 2200g no matter what the timings were... and couldn't get 2 sticks to run at 3200mhz, had to run at 3000mhz


Thank you for this, yup I did try what you recommended before, it works, it even worked on 3600mhz, stable without any issues, unfortunately, each time I close my system and remove the power to it through my UPS, upon my next boot, it will all load the default settings and enters 2 boot loops, so I have to manually edit the configurations again

This did not happen to you? and yes, my 2 RAM sticks are in A2/B2. And sadly, I do not have anymore budget to buy new RAM, I have to settle with what I have. Other than manually tuning everything each time I boot, I do not have any issues with my unit.
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you can try manually setting to 3200 and voltage to 1.35 (not XMP profile) and everything else to auto and if that works ... try a little faster or go down to 3000. Your RAM isn't on the QVL so you are only going to get what you get.

..and I'm assuming you have the RAM in slots A2/B2?

I've had pretty good luck with Ryzen 3000 series and non-QVL RAM (3 setups all running XMP profiles or faster) .. I had to run my RAM slower on same motherboards with last gen CPU's. You could get different RAM or you might have a dud memory controller on your 3600, so try another chip if these are all new parts and can be returned/exchanged.

My other setups:
Asrock B350 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/AC w/ 2 x 16gb 3000mhz stuff carried over from my older 7700k build and a 3600x. Would only do 2866 with 2700x.

ASRock X470 Master SLI/ac before I upgraded to the x570 Steel Legend ran the 2700x with 4 sticks of 3200mhz RGB stuff at 3000mhz until I upgraded to the 3700x .. then I could run all 4 sticks at 3200mhz. Current rig in sig.

Asus B350 Prime w/ 4 x 3200 RGB stuff and a 3400g. System would crash with 4 sticks and a 2200g no matter what the timings were... and couldn't get 2 sticks to run at 3200mhz, had to run at 3000mhz
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/f8zf1k/my_guide_to_amd_ryzen_asrock_motherboard_problems/

Check this guide. Seems to fix exactly that issue for a lot of people.
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it is already running on latest BIOS, I checked Asrock's website.
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try updating to latest bios
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