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    Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 7:05pm
Late response, but nonetheless:

Changing the CMOS battery didn't do a thing that I could witness.

Anyhow, as was previously mentioned that it doesn't affect my recording performance. It took me this long to test how gaming performance is affected, and by the looks of things there is no difference to what I'm seeing on Windows 7 in games like Rise of the Tomb Raider where I would definitely see a major performance drop.

In otherwords, as a gamer this probably shouldn't bother me as much as it does. MSI Afterburner, unlike HWInfo64 seems to report believable CPU Usage figures.

When I compare MSI Afterburner's values on W7 to my Task Manager's CPU usage, they're more or less the same (which makes me believe I can somewhat trust Afterburner's values as well.) While on Windows 10, my MSI Afterburner is the only one with values between 0-100%; whereas my Task Manager is just always that 100%; with the impossible hundred million percent under Resource Monitor.

So if push comes to shove, I suppose I'll trust a third party application and just resort to its monitoring rather than risk potential issues with a BIOS update, seeing that actual performance seems to be unaffected.

I should probably feel bad that I didn't test gaming performance before. Apologies for that! Thanks everyone for responding to this thread anyhow! :)


Edited by Teutep - 12 Feb 2016 at 7:09pm
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Replace your CMOS battery. No harm no foul in doing so. They're like a buck a piece.
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Anyhow, attempts behind. Unfortunately both are no go.

1. RTC Alarm Power On: Disabled + ACPI HPTE table: Enabled = No difference.
2. RTC Alarm Power On: Disabled + ACPI HPTE table: Disabled = No difference.
3. RTC Alarm Power On: By OS + ACPI HPTE table: Disabled = No difference.
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Well, you took the pictures I used :)

BIOS > Advanced > Southbridge Configuration, of course :) :)
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A stupid question if I may: Where in BIOS is the HPET?

EDIT: Never mind, used a cached version of this:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:oI90ZUOve_QJ:ftp://asrock.cn/Manual/P67%2520Pro3.pdf and took another look at my BIOS photos and found it. Embarrassed


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Ok then. Another "expoeriment' if you're willing.

Wiith RTC Alarm Power on yet disabled, now disable HPET in the BIOS too and re-check.

No go? Attempt HPET Off and RTC On.

If the above stabs in the semi-dark get you nowhere, please revert both RTC and HPET back their former, original, settings and post back.
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Hmmmm, stabbing in the semi-dark here.

I wonder if HPET and RTC are conflicting.

Disable RTC Alarm Power On in BIOS > Advanced > ACPI Configuration, and recheck.

Here I only want to disable RTC Alarm Power On. Don't mess with HPET just yet please. Disable RTC Alarm Power On and report back.


Thanks for the idea! Smile I disabled the RTC Alarm Power On, saved settings and booted to Windows 10.

Unfortunately, it didn't seem to make a difference to my CPU Usage. (Still reporting 100% on Task Manager, and something like 200 million percent on Resource Monitor.) Unhappy


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Hmmmm, stabbing in the semi-dark here.

I wonder if HPET and RTC are conflicting.

Disable RTC Alarm Power On in BIOS > Advanced > ACPI Configuration, and recheck.

Here I only want to disable RTC Alarm Power On. Don't mess with HPET just yet please. Disable RTC Alarm Power On and report back.
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Second attempt at posting this (I timed out and my backup text wasn't up-to-date after all):

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

-snip- I really wish you had clicked the Performance tab in your video, and had a third party hardware monitoring program like HWiNFO or AIDA64 running at the same time.

To my surprise, something I hadn't witnessed before, I actually started getting odd framerate drops on my desktop once I opened up [Resource Manager > CPU]. Every other tab on Resource Manager works fine though! (Demonstrated in the video added for this post: runs fine at first on [Overview] -tab; the change happens at around 1:57)

I could've cut plenty, but I figured maybe I'll just keep the whole thing. Sorry that it's near 3 minutes, but I hope it shows what you wanted me to show. If it doesn't, shame on me and back to recording. Embarrassed

This time instead of filling up space on my Dropbox, I decided to upload it on YouTube as an unlisted video: https://youtu.be/p_OmYn92yng

Here's a still image:


Originally posted by Teutep Teutep wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

In the BIOS, is there anything indicative of this Windows behavior displayed?

Probably not, I'm not seeing the odd CPU usage on Windows 7 x64 side. I'll make sure to check!
-snip-

Okay, so I hope I didn't do a poor job at this. If I did, tell me and I'll try my best to correct it!

As far as BIOS goes, the only thing that strikes me as odd is the CPU temperature. I'm getting around 37 celsius if I go by AXTU on Windows 7 x64 (this is where my CPU usage is normal too), but when I check the temperature in say, BIOS it's as high as 67.5 celsius implying it's not in idle.

I took screenshots, of course. I figured that just incase there's something in there that I could've missed, taking pictures of almost everything should cover most bases. (Please don't ask me why I'm on IDE instead of AHCI despite using SSD. Big smile)

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Some other people who have (had) this issue (in the past):



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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:


I see now the only method of updating to 3.10 and beyond is the Windows executable file method. Censored Sick

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If you were really at 100% CPU usage, you would not be able to move the mouse pointer as freely as you did, and have the multiple windows open and running. Not to mention the screen capture/video software you had running, IF that is what it was.


The Windows only is why I stopped.

I asked about inside the BIOS goings on to check that it might be the clock crystal that is bad/defective as it would show there also. ie: wierdness
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