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    Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 5:43am
Hi Everyone.
This is the first time writing in a Forum such as this.I have been building rigs/Systems or whatever you want to call them for more than 15 years. But this time i need Help.
I built myself a nice little moderate gaming rig due to some financial shortcomings.(details will follow)
it hast been running for little over a Month now. Its running almost 24/7. This Morning it was in sleep mode but wouldnt wake up no matter what i did. Since i had that issue once before i turned the psu off (power button wouldnt work either) and back on. Last time it worked this time nothing. this was roughly 14 hours ago. I completely checked and rechecked everything. Button is ok Psu is perfekt reset CMOS pulled the battery for CMOS AND set the jumper and tried only doing one of those at a time. Only reaction i could get from the Board was a little flashing lights in my g15. Nothing else.

My System:
Asrock H81M-DGS R2.0
i5 4460
8gb DDR3 1600
hdd 2xsataII 1tb&2tb
Geforce 560 GTX
PSU: Thermaltake cable management 750W
DVD/RW
Everything in an old but very nice and well handled chieftec tower. 


Thanks in advance.
Asko aka Ben
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BTW Sorry if my English is a bit hard to read i am native German ;)
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So you are getting flashing LED indicators on the LAN port but nothing else?

I would try just 1 stick of RAM, the CPU and PSU connected and test to see if that makes a difference. 

I see you have already cleared CMOS by both clear CMOS jumper and battery removal (I assume by your experience level you had the system disconnected from the power when using the battery removal method) so this is a more complex issue than simple UEFI corruption.

If the basic config fails then the next course of action is to check the individual components. Most often in situations like this it is the PSU, you say you have checked that but you did not mention how. If you used the paperclip test then that is not a definitive test method as it does not apply any real load to the PSU's rails. The only way to actually test a PSU (without expensive testing equipment) is to try it on another system. 

If you have done this and the PSU is working then I would check the CPU socket for any burn marks/bent pins. If that is all clear then try powering on the system with no RAM installed, if the system powers up and beeps (RAM missing error code) then it may be the RAM or CPU that have become faulty. If the board does not power on even without RAM installed then it is likely the board has failed, in which case you should be able to start the RMA process given the system is only a month old and should still be covered by warranty.

Let us know how it goes, good luck Thumbs Up 
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I am trying your Method of disconnecting all power for a time.

the flashing lights is my usb Keyboard!

the psu was tried on my old mainboard lying next to the rig. worked fine.

yes i tried CMOS without power cable and in desperation again with power and again without power to make sure.
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Clearing CMOS via battery removal often requires the system to be left without the battery (and disconnected from power) for anywhere up to 4 hours. Simply disconnecting power and removing then replacing the battery will not clear the CMOS completely. The fact that you say you will try to leave the system unpowered for an hour to test leads me to believe that you may not have left the battery out long enough when you tried to clear CMOS (or the system would have already been unpowered for an hour while you cleared CMOS by removing the battery).

The power cord must be removed from the back of the PSU or from the wall during a battery removal clear or the power from the PSU will prevent the CMOS from clearing. 

Power is getting to your keyboard so something is happening, another useful test is attaching a LAN cable to the LAN port and a router/swtich, if the LAN LEDs light up then there is power getting to the system. Your keyboard lights are flashing however so that isn't necessary in your situation as we know power is getting to the keyboard, briefly as it may be.


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you are correct. I did not leave the system 4 hours without power. If my current try does not work i will try clearing the CMOS again. This time i will try it with the full 4 hours. Last time i cleared CMOS was a few years back so i was not aware that it takes this long with newer boards. Last time i did this it took just 10 minutes.

I will try the LAN Port aswell.

Next thing on my list is your approach to unplug everything except RAM and CPU.

Thank you a lot for your help.
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Good luck to you, lets hope that your problem will be resolved by one of the things I suggested Thumbs Up
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Ok. So the pure powerdown did not work (1hour)

The CMOS clear (had it without power no batt and jumper to pin 2+3 for over 8 hours) did not work. however the lights on my usb keyboard were not flashing but stayed on. the LCD on the keyboard remained dark so did the indicator lights for caps etc.

Connected a Router to the LAN port but nothing came through, no blinking, nothing.

I am now attemting to remove Hardware in order to further locate the culprit.


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I am sorry to hear that. You may still get lucky and have it be a poor connection somewhere. Let us know how it goes.
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yeah well i got it. I couldnĀ“t believe it. The Thermaltake PSU is dodgy as hell. it works on my old MB but only sometimes. When i tested it, it worked. Now i know its defective to some degree because i plugged in a spare cheap as crap psu and the rig came to life immediatly. sadly that sh*tty psu is only a 430W without pci-e connectors. So now the rig is running on MB graphics slow as hell but its runnung at least. Gotta admit though that the thermaltake psu was very old (going on 8 years i believe.) 
Well time for a new PSU. And goddam me for falling for that false positive with the old MB.

Sry for all the hassle. And Thanks alot for the help!
sincerly Ben (slightly embaressed)
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