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    Posted: 05 Jan 2024 at 12:11am
Hey,

Does the X399 Phantom Gaming 6 have no Flashback Option ?

Cant find any and the descriptions are for the Fatality and Taichi.


Got Hands on a X399 Phantom Gaming 6 - looks perfect, switches on, but not much is happening.
After maybe 30sec it turns off and restarts - repeats that till eternity.

Took several PSU, multible Rams, 2x CPU - it always does the same.

Only Idea i got was to flashback the Bios, but... cant, since there is no Flashback-button ?! Or am i blind ?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2024 at 1:46am
I have the same board, there is no flashback option. It was a fairly new feature
at the time it came out and this was a more "budget" friendly board.
Getting X399 to POST for the first time (with new hardware) can be tricky.

Make sure the CPU is properly installed (I had to use a guide the first time)
Insert a single stick of RAM in the recommended slot (should be in the manual)
Make sure you have at least 1 8 pin CPU power cable connected along with the 24 pin.
Clear CMOS before you power up

Hope this helps.
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Hey,

Thanks - ok, so i am not blind and it rly does not have a Flashback-Option.

...and the Bios-Chip is welded in too - was thinking of plugging it out and flash it then somewhere else.. "oh no wait...has to be soldered"

Ye, quite Budget the Board it seems :(

CPU i am sure it is connected - Pins look awesome. Slider is perfect. Retentionmodule is fine and aligned. I am used to Socket 2011, 3467 and had now 3x other TR4 Boards before this one - ofc always the chance the pressure isnt sitting and hitting all Pins.

But it does look CPU is working - else it would do "other" stuff.

Weird is that behaviour ;

Switches on - no beep, 25sec later it switches off and restarts.
PSU i have several, all have at least one 8-Pin.
CMos button was pressed and Bios-batterie also replaced, old one still had 2.94V - but just in case, brand new one in.
Ram Slots i tried with one at first, but doesnt seem to make difference if 1,2,4 or 8.

Sadly I dont have an PCI-E Post-Card, only for older Boards with PCI.

Is this generally known to happen to Asrock Mainboards after maybe failed Bios-Flash ?

Thinking of buying new Bios-Chip and solder it on - but might be hopeless anyway ?!

Thanks sofar & Greetings :)
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Mine power cycled for about 5 mins before it finally posted the first time. Try
leaving it powered on for at least 10 mins.

BIOS version shouldn't be an issue either, the Phantom Gaming 6 came out at the
same time as Threadripper 2 so it supports all TR4 CPUs on all BIOS versions.

As for the BIOS chip, a clip on ROM reader/writer should do the trick, there are
quite a few options out there. So long as the board isn't powered a ROM writer
with a chip clip should be able to read and write the BIOS ROM. Unless you have
reason to believe the board had a bad flash I would still suspect it's simply a
RAM training issue based on the symptoms.
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Hey,

Thanks - good idea, with the Rom Writer and clips :)
I did wire the Chip with 20cm cables then to the Rom-Writer/reader and i could read and write it - But sadly no help - The chip is fine and the Bios was fully functional and error free - Could read every corner, view it all and microcodes in viewer - all there, nothing wrong - did flash it anyway, but didnt help.

Issue still the same - and now worse ;

Also you mentioned letting it try run for 5, 10min.

I did try and let it run rebooting for over 20minutes in loop - but nothing came. Felt also like this XMP "cant read memory OC profile", tries 3x and then usually goes into safe-mode. But after 20min I aborted that.

Now the worst part ;

Since I didnt use the 2nd 12V Pin-plug, I thought time to test that.
2nd one isnt needed anyway, only for OC - has to work with one.
What was weird ;
System reboots 25-30 seconds if I had the 24Pin+ 1x8 Pin plugged on - but when I left out the 8-Pin, Board didnt shut itself down and rebooted, it ran.
Which felt like "cant give stable 12v?!"

So i did plug in 2nd 8-Pin in and tried again ...and at first it stood, no reboot, even the RGB colours under the Cooler went colorful, waited bit more - and then you could hear something feeping, bruzzling - RGB flickered, system stuttering - so I switched off.

Board still does the same issue, works as before - but my PSU is dead :(
The Board killed my beloved 600 Watt Be-quiet Modular one - it wont turn on anymore :(

I guess something went/is/was haywire with the additional 12V Supply for the Mainboard - cant get 12V working, so no further CPU-Initialize = shutdown and retry.
After I then Added "morre Power" - it might have had the chance to finally give the 12V Power/Watt needing to fully initialize...but yeah, something on the Board obviosly cant hold it anymore.

I ofc dont dare to plug in any other PSU with 2x 8-Pin and retry - with 1x 8-pin it still works as before.


Story of Board itself ;

it was an perfectly well working System, very well maintained, clean, dustfree, smoking free, animal free - bit richer Person, having an extraordinary System of the Time - not suffering or working too much, no OC, were only 3200Mhz Modules on it, 1950X, good/normal cooling - Did every day work, without beeing an 24/7 or even 12/7 system running on 80% CPU all the time.
But then this "bug" just appeared on day

as computers always are "but yesterday it workerd totally fine" :(

Well so much for that then.

Thanks for the help and answers! :)
was afraid nobody was answering

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Sorry to hear it didn't work out. My Phantom Gaming 6 has been rock solid for 2+
years now, I use it every day. If the system "died" before the board was harvested
it could be the board itself was toasted somehow. As for the PSU, that could also
just be bad luck. If memory serves Be-Quiet use multi rail designs, IE: they are
not actually the rating they say they are as you cannot draw that rating on a single
12v rail. Most often they are 2 12v rails of say 250w each then they add the other
rails wattage together and call it 600w. In reality, not a single rail can tolerate
more than 250w safely.

TLDR, with Be-Quiet multi rail PSUs you have to be sure to balance your load between
the 2 power rails. If you overload one, the PSU can fry spectacularly.

That said, a TR4 system should not be pulling enough juice to overload even a
single rail on your PSU, not unless you had a beastly GPU installed on the same
rail as the motherboard.

Again, sorry I couldn't get you up and running

Edited by Xaltar - 07 Jan 2024 at 6:27pm
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