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    Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 10:44pm
Oh well, no go on the overclocking. I still couldn't get the system stable at 4.6ghz no matter how much voltage I threw at it. On the up side temps remained sub 60c even at 1.42v. I was able to post at 5ghz but could not boot into the OS. On air I could not post at 5.0ghz with this CPU.

I am back to my 4.4ghz daily use OC after 7 hours of trying every combination of settings under the sun, I guess either my budget Z170 Pro4s or my CPU just are not up to the task Cry

None the less, 4.5ghz stable is still not a bad result I just would have liked to see more under water. It looks like I will have to wait for another board/CPU combo to try for the elusive 5ghz OC that both my previous systems denied me Ouch
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A thing of beauty Heart



And the before shot



Aside from the awesome new Corsair H105 AIO I have also added a Thermaltake Riing 140mm fan, my local store didn't have any Arctic 140s in stock and I like the more subtle not over bright ring LED effect that matches the logo on my GTX 960 G1 Gaming. I may not like the Christmas tree flashing LED effects but a subtle glow always makes me smile Tongue

As you can see there was plenty of tubing to reach the front of the case, even if I were to have the radiator mounted against the case then fans onto the radiator. I chose this configuration because it will allow me to add a pair of 120mm fans at a later date without having to dismantle everything Smile

I have done a few stress tests at the same OC I was using on the Arctic Freezer 12 (modded aesthetically). I am running my i5 6600k @ 4.4ghz with a 1.3v vcore. Both configs were tested with an ambient temp of 24c and as you can see from the pics the only change is the H105, the new 140mm fan was used for both the air and water cooling tests.

Arctic Freezer 12:

Idle: 32c
Prime Load: 75c
Gaming Load: 44c

Corsair H105:

Idle: 16c
Prime Load: 51c
Gaming load: 28c


As you can see, the gaming load on the H105 is lower than the idle load on the Arctic Freezer 12 Shocked The other temps are so far below the air cooler I think they speak for themselves. Now to overclock some more and see how far I get. I topped out at 4.6ghz using my Thermaltake Frio OCK @ 1.35v and couldn't run prime without a thermal event (100c). Lets see what I can get out of the H105 Cool


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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

I couldn't let all the water cooling potential of the Define S go to waste now could I?


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Well it looks like Santa must have been having a bender with the Toothfairy and Easter Bunny because Christmas came early for me Cool



I couldn't let all the water cooling potential of the Define S go to waste now could I?
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Now you need a reason to remove those slick blanking panels from the top of your case LOL


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Yeah, that tends to be the trade off when it comes to quiet fans. I have reviewed a lot of fans in the past and the only ones (that I tested) that were quiet and had decent (ish) airflow are Noctua's silent range. 

I will have 3 140mm fans on the front when my order comes in, while the airflow is hardly ideal it should be ample with 3 of them running at their full 1000rpm. They are very quiet and I do like that. Add to that that there is absolutely nothing impeding airflow in the define S and it should do the job well enough. I would go with Noctua fans but I just can't stand the brown color and my local stores only stock the brown.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 10:50am
I have two Define S cases, my Define R5 is a limitation by comparison.

If you're not water cooling, which you aren't like I am, no need to remove all of the top covers IMO.

Airflow in the case is from front to back. I have all the PCI slot covers removed to allow air to escape out the back. Only one rear 140mm exhaust fan, or another 140mm exhaust fan at the top rear, or an open vent, is plenty to allow air to exit the case. It also maintains positive pressure in the case. Three 140mm fans in the front, filter removed (too restrictive), and I can feel the breeze three feet away behind the PC.

IMO, the Fractal fans are one notch above worthless. Incredibly quiet, because they move so little air, even at full speed. When I tested one with my 12V power supply, the air flow was pathetic. Put them behind the dust filter, might as well not even connect them to power. Removing them is done while preparing the case.

I mentioned the locator standoff to wardog, which he must of just tossed out as some weird thing. It does explain the "missing" mobo screw.

No need to explain not needing you PC as an Xmas tree. But wait until the next wave of ASRock boards is released, it will be LEDs everywhere, as they must offer it to match the other manufactures, and please the children. Plus they need night lights with their PC in their bedroom.


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Nope, no missing screws in this situation but, if I were using a standard sized ATX motherboard there would indeed have been 1 missing LOL

The Z170 Pro4s only uses 2 rows of mounting holes vs 3 on full sized ATX boards. There was a locator standoff included in the case (actually screwed into it) which could have been the thinking behind the missing standoff and screw. I removed it and replaced it with a regular standoff. 

I have got to say, the thumb tightener for the standoffs included with this case is fantastic. It has earned itself a spot in my toolkit.

I really couldn't think of a better case for my needs. I am not into all the excessive "bling" in my systems, some subtle lighting sure but the flashing, pulsing, color changing thing isn't for me. If I ever use RGB it will be set to the color scheme of my build and left at a constant low setting in that color. 

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Now you need a reason to remove those slick blanking panels from the top of your case LOL
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