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    Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 4:11pm
Cry I'm out of luck to find asrock x79 motherboard I found asus but now I don't like the quality of asus product. I have other options but still I'm looking if any vendor have any old stock. The good thing about asrock is almost every x79  asrock motherboard support xeon V1 & V2 which is very hard to find with other manufacture. Let's see 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Me = Wacko


We know... Wink

Is AMD any better? Let's pull some random processor model numbers from an AMD A88X board:

AD785KXBI44JA

AD760BYBI44JA

AD6500OKA44HL

AD750KWOA44HJ

That "44" must be important about something.

Me too... Wacko
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Your method would work too. I was simply explaining how Intel does it currently.

What other, if any, information is embedded in the numeric "1620" portion, for example, I don't know. The number of cores and threads is never embedded in their model names. The E5-4669 v3 is an 18 core processor, while the E5-4669 v4 is a 22 core processor.

We are lucky to get the processor generation and some indication of its capabilities in the consumer processor naming scheme.
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It could be made simpler was my point:

E(X) (Gen=x) (cores =x) (Threads=x) (revision=x)

So:

E5 104083 = Gen 1, 4 cores, 8 threads, model 3 (43 previously)
E5 308168 = Gen 3, 8 cores, 16 threads model 8

A little longer but easily understood that the last 5 numbers will carry through from one gen to the next. Having the gen first makes it much less likely to confuse them. Having the core and thread count in the name further simplifies things, lets face it the naming scheme is alpha numeric anyway so being a boring string of numbers one way or the other isn't going to make a difference from a marketing perspective. 

I do follow the logic on them being the same with an added version number, it makes planning upgrades simple if the usage application worked well on an E5 1620 then the v2 or v3 will offer the same benefits + added generational performance and efficiency. 
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

Don't feel too bad Wardog, the Xeon naming scheme is stupid....

E5 1620
E5 1620 v2
E5 1620 v3
E5 1620 v4

Really intel??? The same name spanning 2 incompatible chipsets with 4 different architectures. I have often wondered what their marketing department is thinking...... At least with the Core i named parts there are actual obvious distinctions though even then I am sick of seeing i3, i5 and i7, especially when they insist on only including the prefix on the stickers that get slapped on OEMs. i7 laptop for sale $500.... ok so is it Nehalem? Sandy? Ivy? ya know what I mean?





I think in the case of the Xeon line, which is for the professional server environment, the naming scheme makes some sense.

That is, the use of the same model number, for example E5 1620, identify them as 4 core, 8 thread processors in each vx generation. Once you know what an E5 1620 basically is, you know what it is in each generation.

Add to that the number of Xeon models available, 43, 47, 48, and 44, in each of the vx generations respectively, that helps keep the 182 individual models (!) sorted out a bit better. Imagine if Intel changed the model number itself in each generation.

The other side of things, the consumer models, are dumbed down for the majority of people that have no idea what the difference is between and i7-2600K and i7-2700K, i7-3770K, i7-4770K and i7-4790K, i7-5775C and R, i7-6700K, and now i7-7700K.

The above is an example of the confusing Intel consumer side of model names.

But the generations of Intel consumer processors is easily decoded, as long as you are familiar with Intel's generation number and naming scheme:

2nd Generation is Sandy Bridge, ix-2000 series.

3rd Generation is Ivy Bridge, ix-3000 series.

4th Generation is Haswell, ix-4000 series

5th Generation is Broadwell, ix-5000 series

6th Generation is Skylake, ix-6000 series

7th Generation is Kaby Lake, ix-7000 series

This excludes the Pentium models, which I won't try to explain. Confused
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:


Since you wrote Xeon E5 1620 Sandy Bridge, that processor is used with the X79 platform, as you know.


Oh sure! Highlite Sandy Bridge. Yea. I did miss that didn't I?



OP, research from the X79 boards by first choosing your processor from the below list:

And my apology for that bone-headed link I provided earlier post. Me bad. I'll now return to the AMD sections, where I obviously belong Embarrassed


http://asrock.com/support/cpu.us.asp?s=2011


The devil is in the details, as they say, and it's true. Evil Smile

Knowing Intel systems is all about endless details. Ouch

My extreme attention to details is caused by my time as a programmer, where one character missing or in the wrong place means complete failure.

Everyone belongs somewhere... Wink   AMD has plenty of its own details, like the number of PCIe lanes on the various chipsets. Wait until Zen is available, it looks like it will be a forget everything you know about AMD kind of change. All the features Intel has been dribbling out over the years, all at once, BOOM! Shocked

You'll need to have a Zen system to keep up. We all should.
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Ok. If you say so.

I won't feel too bad. Clown
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Don't feel too bad Wardog, the Xeon naming scheme is stupid....

E5 1620
E5 1620 v2
E5 1620 v3
E5 1620 v4

Really intel??? The same name spanning 2 incompatible chipsets with 4 different architectures. I have often wondered what their marketing department is thinking...... At least with the Core i named parts there are actual obvious distinctions though even then I am sick of seeing i3, i5 and i7, especially when they insist on only including the prefix on the stickers that get slapped on OEMs. i7 laptop for sale $500.... ok so is it Nehalem? Sandy? Ivy? ya know what I mean?



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