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    Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:48pm
A brief update: A relative asked me to help on getting a new system so I thoughts that Deskmini was one of the best choices.
I've also got a i3 6100 (that's a 51W TDP), 2x4GB RAM and a 850 EVO 250GB.

What I can say after building and installing Windows 10 on it:
- initially the fan was loud but went into bios and set it to silent. It was quite ok
- had no problems installing the components and I like that the first SATA drive is easy to install with just 2 screws.
- it's very compact and solid
- I like the option to turn on by usb keyboard

The main downsides that I can think of are:
- the number of USB could be bigger. 2 on the back, a normal one in the front + a type C one. This can be easily fixed by getting a monitor with usb hub in it
- the audio output is at the front of the case. I can't imagine why I would want to have my speakers connected in the front of the case, looking ugly, rather than on the back. Sure it's find if you VESA mount it, but if it's sitting on a desk then it's not that nice looking. 
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According to https://smallformfactor.net/news/asrock-z270m-stx-mxm-pictured the shown case was under 30db on run, so it should be quitet.

But as you noted, who knows when it will be available. I really kind find DeskMini110 in my country...

Chances are that I'll go with a DeskMini 110 with a i7 7700. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by alinescoo alinescoo wrote:

:) interesting that AsRock did not have a announce around here somewhere.



As Xaltar said, this is a new product that is not available yet. (Thanks for you comment, Xaltar!!)

I saw the DeskMini 110 at Computex16 last June on display, but it was not available in the USA until months later. I don't expect the RX/GTX will be available for purchase for a while yet, but you never know.

All the new ASRock Z270 boards that were announced are not yet available, the Z270 SuperCarrier, for example, I don't see in the USA yet.

Also, don't assume this new DeskMini RX/GTX will be as quiet as the original DeskMini 110W. The RX/GTX is a different creature, with a different purpose.
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I am afraid I can't provide that information. That will only be made known when the product goes to market. I would think there will probably be multiple options available much like with the current Desk Mini.
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I was wondering. a MXM card, will it come from AsRock so basically that MXM card has everything it needs, cooler, 1060 Graphic Card, all added ? Or the buyer need to get a separate graphics card, after getting the barebone?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 5:37pm
CES just ended and as is always the case with CES, manufacturers use it to showcase future products. I am sure we will see announcements once the product is finalized. It is worth baring in mind that in many cases these products are prototypes and may never come to market. That said, I don't think that will be the case here. The new Desk Mini RX/GTX look to be perfect for the market given the rise in interest regarding micro form factor PCs. Portable VR ready desktop anyone?
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:) interesting that AsRock did not have a announce around here somewhere.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 5:24pm
I am drooling all over my keyboard right now. How did I not know this yet?
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Thank you very muchj @parsec for your detailed analysis, you've made it more clear.
Thank you @Xaltar  
As a side note, on my current PC, the compile of my most important project takes from 10-20 seconds

After reading all and thinking of my priorities, seems that i7 7700 is the best choice.
i5 may also be a strong candidate as looking at some sites,  between i5 3350p and i5 7500 there's a 30% performance difference

I may wait a little longer and get DeskMini GTX, as it seems to have the best of both worlds: small size, silent and separate GPU. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 2:59pm
Well said Parsec!

Performance>Heat>Noise = 7700
Noise>Performance>Heat = 7700
Noise>Heat>Performance = 7700T
Heat>Noise>Performance = 7700T

etc

Breaking down your priorities in this way will ultimately ensure you are happy with your purchase. In your situation, given you will be using the system for coding/compiling I would go with the 7700 not the T, as Parsec noted, you can always take a break during a long compile and the stock intel coolers are not all that noisy, nothing at all compared to my Thermaltake Frio OCK at 100% fans....
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