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    Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 1:49am
Buildzoid recently did a video in which he reviewed the Taichi's VRM.  In that video, he briefly talked about the LLC of the Taichi, and noticed some concerning numbers when he tried to measure the voltage compared to what the software was telling him. 

Here is the video,
https://youtu.be/_ic5d5qAhBU?t=20m47s

Vcore set to 1.375v
3.7 GHz

LLC Level  Idle V  Load V
Level 1 = 1.381v  1.461v
Level 2 = 1.380v  1.445v
Level 3 = 1.380v  1.431v
Level 4 = 1.377v  1.401v
Level 5 = 1.375v  1.385v


I don't have the means to directly measure the Vcore, but according to software I get some somewhat seemingly peculiar results myself. 

Vcore set to 1.35v
3.9 GHz

LLC levels 1 & 2 cause very high overvoltage.
LLC level 3,4, & 5 show LESS voltage than I set in bios. 

I am currently using vcore = 1.35v with LLC level 3, which shows my Vcore at 1.344v under load. 

I am not sure what to make of this.   Is buildzoid wrong?  Is the software Trustworthy?  Should I try to redo my OC with LLC5?

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as i understand it
and im quite sure im right
level 1 is supposed to be the tightest fixing of volts eg they should not move much

level 5 is the most relaxed eg it can drop a lot lower than you are trying to maintain

mine is at level 2 and seems to stay very very close to what i set
i cant recall exactly what i set it on in *p states* it was either (hex code 1f ) 1.356v or (hex code 27) which is 1.306v
either way im used to seeing no more than 1.36v

it is late and i had to check my scrap paper notes i have a tick by 1.306v but i cant remember if that was stable and i left it or had to switch back to 1.356v


Edited by datonyb - 17 Apr 2017 at 6:37am
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Originally posted by mysticjbyrd mysticjbyrd wrote:

[URL=][/URL]Buildzoid recently did a video in which he reviewed the Taichi's VRM.? In that video, he briefly talked about the LLC of the Taichi, and noticed some concerning numbers when he tried to measure the voltage compared to what the software was telling him.?

Here is the video,
https://youtu.be/_ic5d5qAhBU?t=20m47s

Vcore set to 1.375v
3.7 GHz

LLC Level? Idle V? Load V
Level 1 = 1.381v? 1.461v
Level 2 = 1.380v? 1.445v
Level 3 = 1.380v? 1.431v
Level 4 = 1.377v? 1.401v
Level 5 = 1.375v? 1.385v


I don't have the means to directly measure the Vcore, but according to software I get some somewhat seemingly peculiar results myself.?

Vcore set to 1.35v
3.9 GHz

LLC levels 1 & 2 cause very high overvoltage.
LLC level 3,4, & 5 show LESS voltage than I set in bios.?

I am currently using vcore = 1.35v with LLC level 3, which shows my Vcore at 1.344v under load.?

I am not sure what to make of this.?? Is buildzoid wrong?? Is the software Trustworthy?? Should I try to redo my OC with LLC5?



Buildzoid got it all wrong, took DMM measurements from the wrong place and came to the wrong conclusions.

A guy on Extremesystems Forums, username Chew took DMM measurements on Taichi from the pad at the back of the socket (he was avdised by mobo engineers to take readings there) and the conclusion from those readings is;

Bios setting of 1.4v and LLC Level 1 equal 1.4v DMM reading at socket.

Also don't trust the software for readings as they are usually way off. Just know that with this board if you set a voltage and use LLC level 1 it will be pretty smack on to actual volts as confirmed by Chews findings from taking DMM readings at the correct plece.

Use LLC level 1 or 2 and you'll be pretty good to go with volts matching what you set in bios.....just don't trust software readouts.

Edited by lowdog - 17 Apr 2017 at 6:20pm
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Originally posted by mysticjbyrd mysticjbyrd wrote:

[URL=][/URL]Buildzoid recently did a video in which he reviewed the Taichi's VRM.? In that video, he briefly talked about the LLC of the Taichi, and noticed some concerning numbers when he tried to measure the voltage compared to what the software was telling him.?

Here is the video,
https://youtu.be/_ic5d5qAhBU?t=20m47s

Vcore set to 1.375v
3.7 GHz

LLC Level? Idle V? Load V
Level 1 = 1.381v? 1.461v
Level 2 = 1.380v? 1.445v
Level 3 = 1.380v? 1.431v
Level 4 = 1.377v? 1.401v
Level 5 = 1.375v? 1.385v


I don't have the means to directly measure the Vcore, but according to software I get some somewhat seemingly peculiar results myself.?

Vcore set to 1.35v
3.9 GHz

LLC levels 1 & 2 cause very high overvoltage.
LLC level 3,4, & 5 show LESS voltage than I set in bios.?

I am currently using vcore = 1.35v with LLC level 3, which shows my Vcore at 1.344v under load.?

I am not sure what to make of this.?? Is buildzoid wrong?? Is the software Trustworthy?? Should I try to redo my OC with LLC5?



Buildzoid got it all wrong, took DMM measurements from the wrong place and came to the wrong conclusions.

A guy on Extremesystems Forums, username Chew took DMM measurements on Taichi from the pad at the back of the socket (he was avdised by mobo engineers to take readings there) and the conclusion from those readings is;

Bios setting of 1.4v and LLC Level 1 equal 1.4v DMM reading at socket.

Also don't trust the software for readings as they are usually way off. Just know that with this board if you set a voltage and use LLC level 1 it will be pretty smack on to actual volts as confirmed by Chews findings from taking DMM readings at the correct plece.

Use LLC level 1 or 2 and you'll be pretty good to go with volts matching what you set in bios.....just don't trust software readouts.


Yah, I was afraid of that.  Do you have a link to Chew's testing!?  ty btw
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Originally posted by mysticjbyrd mysticjbyrd wrote:

Originally posted by lowdog lowdog wrote:

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Originally posted by mysticjbyrd mysticjbyrd wrote:

[URL=][/URL]Buildzoid recently did a video in which he reviewed the Taichi's VRM.? In that video, he briefly talked about the LLC of the Taichi, and noticed some concerning numbers when he tried to measure the voltage compared to what the software was telling him.?

Here is the video,
https://youtu.be/_ic5d5qAhBU?t=20m47s

Vcore set to 1.375v
3.7 GHz

LLC Level? Idle V? Load V
Level 1 = 1.381v? 1.461v
Level 2 = 1.380v? 1.445v
Level 3 = 1.380v? 1.431v
Level 4 = 1.377v? 1.401v
Level 5 = 1.375v? 1.385v


I don't have the means to directly measure the Vcore, but according to software I get some somewhat seemingly peculiar results myself.?

Vcore set to 1.35v
3.9 GHz

LLC levels 1 & 2 cause very high overvoltage.
LLC level 3,4, & 5 show LESS voltage than I set in bios.?

I am currently using vcore = 1.35v with LLC level 3, which shows my Vcore at 1.344v under load.?

I am not sure what to make of this.?? Is buildzoid wrong?? Is the software Trustworthy?? Should I try to redo my OC with LLC5?



Buildzoid got it all wrong, took DMM measurements from the wrong place and came to the wrong conclusions.

A guy on Extremesystems Forums, username Chew took DMM measurements on Taichi from the pad at the back of the socket (he was avdised by mobo engineers to take readings there) and the conclusion from those readings is;

Bios setting of 1.4v and LLC Level 1 equal 1.4v DMM reading at socket.

Also don't trust the software for readings as they are usually way off. Just know that with this board if you set a voltage and use LLC level 1 it will be pretty smack on to actual volts as confirmed by Chews findings from taking DMM readings at the correct plece.

Use LLC level 1 or 2 and you'll be pretty good to go with volts matching what you set in bios.....just don't trust software readouts.


Yah, I was afraid of that.  Do you have a link to Chew's testing!?  ty btw
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