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    Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:13am
I have the asrock x370 taichi and also have the Trident Z RGB RAM cl16 (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR). Are these two compatible with each other at the max 3200mhz frequency? If not what is the lowest frequency i can get it to for it to boot stable? Link to the ram i have: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232476&cm_re=trident_z_rgb-_-20-232-476-_-Product
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Compatible, yes.

3200, meh, don't get your hopes up.

They're Hynix A-die. The good thing is they are Single Rank, Single Sided.

I would try the 1.0.0.6 BIOS first as Hynix seem(s)(ed) to prefer that BIOS rev. over 1.0.0.6a BIOSes.


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if you can afford the extra cash
the cl15 and cl14 sticks should have the samsung B dies
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Originally posted by Xxetro Xxetro wrote:

I have the asrock x370 taichi and also have the Trident Z RGB RAM cl16 (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR). Are these two compatible with each other at the max 3200mhz frequency? If not what is the lowest frequency i can get it to for it to boot stable? Link to the ram i have: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232476&cm_re=trident_z_rgb-_-20-232-476-_-Product


Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Compatible, yes.

3200, meh, don't get your hopes up.

They're Hynix A-die. The good thing is they are Single Rank, Single Sided.

I would try the 1.0.0.6 BIOS first as Hynix seem(s)(ed) to prefer that BIOS rev. over 1.0.0.6a BIOSes.




What, a TridentZ memory model with Hynix memory chips? Not Samsung B-die?

Of course, G.SKILL does only include Intel systems in the QVL:

http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

What's the lowest frequency/speed you can get it to boot stable? We can see that is 2133.

I assume you mean what is the highest frequency you can get it to boot stable, if not at 3200?

Usually that is 2933 for Samsung B-die chip memory, if not more. 2667 is the Ryzen max specification. Which CPU are you using?

 We'll need to see how your model cooperates. It's very difficult to predict memory speed potential with Ryzen, if the memory does not use Samsung B-die chips. You'll just need to experiment with memory speeds and timings and see what happens. The XMP profile is no doubt designed for Intel systems so some manual memory tweaking will be necessary for higher speeds. The SOC voltage set to ~1.1V from the default 0.900V, for example.
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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

What, a TridentZ memory model with Hynix memory chips? Not Samsung B-die?


Most high speed CL16 sticks seem to be Hynix A, B, or M die
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when i was looking it seems samsung dies were 3200 and above and at 3200 needed to be cl15 or cl14,,,,,3400+ etc was using b dies
(that applies to the 8gb sticks)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2017 at 1:21am
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

(that applies to the 8gb sticks)


Good point.

I forgot to mention that in my reply to parsec.
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In case all of you have not seen these new G.Skill:
FlareX
Enjoy, John.
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Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

In case all of you have not seen these new G.Skill:
FlareX
Enjoy, John.


Now if only DDR4 pricing would come down.
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BTW, just saw that this new memory is Threadripper/X399 only and only 4 channel.  Enjoy, John.
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