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    Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 7:43pm
Hi
I recently picked up one of these boards. My current MB has a Transcend TS256GMTS800 as a boot drive and a PM951 1TB Samsung as storage.
In the BIOS both drives are correctly detected; the Samsung is on M2_1 PCIE and the Transcend is on M2_2 SATA. Problem though is that in the boot order I only see an option to use the Samsung. My other board which is an Intel Z170 doesn't have this problem.
I see both drives are on the supported list but as yet I don't see a way to get the Transcend to boot.

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Sorry, that confused me. It's late(early!) and I'm tired, but ........

So this is your first attempt at booting it?

Did you do a fresh OS install first?
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Capn Insan0, sounds like there is no boot sector on the Transcen.  So, please tell us where your OS on the Transcend came from and how it got there.  You really should not try to use a disk containing an OS from another system and booting it on a new one.  Please answer wardog's questions.  Enjoy, John.
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Hi, Check if the Trascend drive is formatted as MBR and you have legacy boot mode enabled in UEFI.

In order to boot the Windows OS on UEFI mode, you have to get a GPT partition on your disk. If your disk is MBR partitioned, you need to set legacy mode boot on UEFI.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 10:07am
Originally posted by Capn Insan0 Capn Insan0 wrote:

Hi
I recently picked up one of these boards. My current MB has a Transcend TS256GMTS800 as a boot drive and a PM951 1TB Samsung as storage.
In the BIOS both drives are correctly detected; the Samsung is on M2_1 PCIE and the Transcend is on M2_2 SATA. Problem though is that in the boot order I only see an option to use the Samsung. My other board which is an Intel Z170 doesn't have this problem.
I see both drives are on the supported list but as yet I don't see a way to get the Transcend to boot.



The Transcend SSD is a SATA M.2 SSD, so Windows was most likely installed in Legacy mode. If it uses Windows 7, that is guaranteed.

So you are trying to use/boot a Windows installation on the Transcend SSD, done on an Intel Z170 board, on a Ryzen X370 board? The only drivers that will be compatible will be any generic MSoft drivers that were left after the Windows installation and not replaced with the hardware specific drivers. Those two boards could not be more incompatible from a hardware perspective.

If the Windows installation from the Z170 board could boot on a Ryzen system, which is questionable at best, I would not want to live with all the issues you'll have, and all the cleanup work necessary, although the Windows Registry will always be a mess.

Very little information provided in your post, so difficult to comment further.
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ok can i also ask a question

why would you want a transend m2sata as the boot drive and the samsung nvme as the storage ?
the samsung is massively faster as is its drive connector interface
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Capn Insan0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 3:35am
Cheers for the replies.
First up, I did get it to be seen as a boot option by changing the order in Hardrive BBS priorities but still no boot into OS. I had another PCIe SSD [a 512GB] onhand so I installed Win10P on that and it worked although I had to bump it up in the menu.
As for why I was using the sata as boot instead of the pcie. I'm aware of the speed difference, my reasoning was that I was using it [the pcie] as a games library primarily so I thought it would be better to load games off that. I was getting ~10sec boot times with the previous build which I felt was good enough.
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Also, I fitted the transcend back into my Z170 board which I still had in my case, I was running the X370 bare with a spare PSU and video card. I wanted to back up my email if I could [I had earlier backups done a week prior] and it booted just fine so it didn't appear there was any issues with the drive.
I had been thinking about transferring to a PCIe for OS anyway so it was worthwhile.
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Capn Insan0, please answer the questions I asked above and post more complete specifications.  Please see mine in my signature.  To enter the BIOS to see the boot disk options use F11.  Enjoy,  John.
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I installed it there when I fitted it onto the Z170 which was my previous motherboard I was using prior to the Gaming X.
To clarify;
Previous build;
Z170MB + i5-6500
16GB Corsair Vengence LPX [2 x 8GB kit]
Window 10 Pro x64
Transcend 256GB sata m2 SSD as boot drive
Samsung 1TB nvme m2 SSD as data/games drive
Adata 256GB sata SSD for library folders
GTX 1080

Current build now;
X370 Gaming X + Ryzen 5 1600X
16GB Corsair Vengence LPX [2 x 8GB kit]
Window 10 Pro x64
Toshiba 512GB nvme m2 SSD as boot drive
Samsung 1TB nvme m2 SSD as data/games drive
Adata 256GB sata SSD for library folders
GTX 1080


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