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Hello
I am sorry it took me so long to reply.
As of now it looks like there is some kind of problem with my motherboard. I dont know if it is the x399 Asrock lineup or if it will not work with any x399 board.
I contacted Asrock support and their testing aligns with my problem. Supposedly they are in contact with AMD to figure out a solution.

In the meantime I tried my ssd on some gigabyte AM4 mainboard and while I cannot test nvme raid because there is only one m.2 slot, at least it is recognised in UEFI and I can boot from there. This tells me it is something related especially to TR4.

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System: Asrock Fatality X399 Professional UEFI_1.70, AMD TR 1900X, G.Skill RipJawsV 32GB F4-3200C14D-32GVK, Windows10 x64 Pro, RX Vega
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Franz01234, I need to look at your older postings, but wanted to say an updated RAID Installation Guide is available on the X399 Manual DL page.  Enjoy, John.

EDIT: The updated manual adds little.  How were you able to install W10 on an Optane drive?  With W10 installed, can you see all the Optane drives?  If you open the Array Management screen and click Delete Array, does it go to the Select Array screen?  If so, using the pull down and if you see your Optane drives, do deletes on each.  Have you already done this?


Edited by MisterJ - 27 Oct 2017 at 4:19am
Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD
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Thanks for your reply MisterJ

There is a misunderstanding here. I hope I can clear it up as I describe my process over the last week.
The situation is as follows:
I installed the optane drives. UEFI does not recognise any of them. Array Management screen is completely greyed out. I cannot delete any arrays because no old arrays exist on these ssds, therefore delete arrays is greyed out.

Boot win10 usb install. The installer recognises the optane drives. I install windows on one of them. Installation works and has to reboot to finish. Cannot boot since no bootable device was found. I then took this optane drive out and put it into a B350 gigabyte motherboard. Drive gets recognised and I can boot that win10 install. It finishes up installation fine and I now have a ryzen pc with one optane module as boot drive. Put the drive back in my x399 system and it is not recognised again and no boot is possible.

The ssd working on B350 Ryzen and not on x399 tells me the problem is with TR4 platform.
Next I will need to find someone with a different x399 mainboard to confirm it is a platform problem and not something specifically related to my Asrock board.

Franz
System: Asrock Fatality X399 Professional UEFI_1.70, AMD TR 1900X, G.Skill RipJawsV 32GB F4-3200C14D-32GVK, Windows10 x64 Pro, RX Vega
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MisterJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 10:54pm
Very good, Franz01234, thanks much.  I was very confused, huh?  I guess you will just have to wait for ASRock support to determine if it is your board or an ASRock board problem.  I am surprised ASRock has not offered to RMA your MB.  Thanks and good luck, John.
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Truly bizarre afternoon with RAID.  I built a RAID0 with two of my three EVO 960s.  One has data on it I want to keep.  Delete Array only shows the size, not even the Physical ID (like 1:1:0).  So, I had to use the Physical path to connect the order of the drive appearance with the serial number.  I knew the serial to the SSD I wanted to keep.  I took a chance that between two BIOS screens the order did not change and Deleted the Array (really just a disk) for both drives.  I inject my drivers into the boot images, so I would not need the USB with drivers.  However when I got to the 'Install Where' screen, there were two 232 GB disks (my SSDs) and no RAID0.  I used Load Driver and browsed to the file containing the drivers on my other SSD (parsec's idea).  They seemed to install just fine.  I selected the RAID0 and started installation of W10 (1709).  When it came time to reboot, the system hung.  In fact my system never Restarted without a Reset button push.  During my unattended install, I run a large batch file and the system crashed in the middle (TIMER_OR_DPC_INVALID).  I tried again using W10 (1703), but it still would not Restart.  I deleted the RAID0 and installed W10 (1709) on one of my SSDs.  At lease for me RAID is usable.  I am in contact with AMD about RAID and will report this to them.  Enjoy, John.

EDIT:  I have determined what the problem is with the injected drivers.  Now I need to find a solution.

EDIT: My solution is to rebuild my WinPE USB and inject the drivers into boot.wim.


Edited by MisterJ - 31 Oct 2017 at 1:54am
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Hey MisterJ you discribe exact my problem :-)
On each of your Disks is a small partition with the meta data of the controller. if you ever had a running system before bios 1.7 the raid controller has a problem with it after update to bios 1.7.

your only chance to get the system running is to build an usb stick with the raid drivers on it and then you have to delete all arrays from the bios, delete all disks from the bios and build the new raid there. stand alone disks must be set to volume under the controller.
if you still have reboot issues then there is one disk wich is not correct initialized.
dont try it with the raid manager under win10 this does not work.

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Thanks much, free-eagle!  I suspect my problem is the SSD with data on it that I want to keep.  I suspect that leaving one NVMe outside the RAID is bad, but it is what I want to do and the system MUST support it!  As I said above, I am in contact with AMD support on this and your post will help a lot.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Just heard back from Asrock support. They were in contact with AMD and were told that it is not possible to create a optane nvme raid because intel is artificially locking that functionality. The ssd checks for the environment and if there is no intel processor it will lock the hardware in BIOS resulting in the drives appearing offline.

Well sh?t. I guess I have to sell those drives on ebay because the vendor return period has ended. Damn you Intel *shakes fist in the air*.

I wish you guys best luck to get your nvme raid up and running. It would be a shame not to use those sweet pcie lanes.

Best regards, Franz


Edited by Franz01234 - 03 Nov 2017 at 2:33am
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Thanks much, Franz01234.  Sorry it turned out poorly.  Enjoy, John.


Edited by MisterJ - 14 Nov 2017 at 8:45am
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Hey Hello

I am struggling on getting Raid expert2 tool on a AsrockX399 taichi MB to work, trying to get 3 Samsung 960 evo in raid mode.

Problem is i can't see AMD-RAID Configuration SCSI Processor Device or AMD Raid Config device in device manager to update the driver.

like in this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csiqG_rkSWI&list=PLPvZiTQPZ-XVK909uKyRQquSRWgxeiBDv&t=233s&index=1

I installed Win10 first on a seperate Samsung Evo 850. now i want to get the 3 960 M2 evo in Raid mode under windows.

In UEFI the sata mode is AHCI , AMD PBS / NVMe Raid mode is enabled.

When i switch Sata mode in Uefi to Raid mode, i cant boot anymore from the system disk Evo 850.

And i cant see the 850 anymore if i wanted to reinstall windows.

What am i doing wrong?

Or do i have to change something else in UEFI?

I only want to get raidexpert2 to work, meaning i can login and put the 960 to raid from inside Windows.

Thanks for any help

Marcus

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