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    Posted: 21 Sep 2024 at 1:54am
Hello,

My system:
Ryzen 9 9950X
AsRock X670E Taichi

I have two kits of Corsair 2x48gb 6600MHz CL32 (CMK96GX5M2B6600C32) (192gb in four sticks). With bios 3.06 motherboard didn't even boot (Error code: EC), but with new bios 3.08 (with AGESA 1.2.0.2) I have successfully booted with 192gb of ram. The problem is, everything works with XMP and 3600Mhz or 3800MHz, but anything higher does not pass ram training.

I have tried changing the impedance, like here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/159xoao/stable_128gb4x32gb_ddr56000_cl30_on_agesa_1007b/

https://youtu.be/NtMIppL9UC4

but nothing works. Is there anything i can do?
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reset all settings and set in bios:

dram freq: 5200 or 5400 or 5600

dram timings: all auto
DFE Read Training = Enabled
Gear Down Mode = Enabled

Once stability is found, you can turn these back to Enabled:
Memory Context Restore = Disabled
Power Down Mode = Disabled

voltages:

VDDIO = VDD = VDDQ = 1.2 or 1.25 or 1.3 or 1.35
VSOC = 1.25
VDDP = auto
VDDG CCD/IOD = auto
VDD Misc = auto

Infinity Fabric = 2000
UCLK = MEMCLK

bus configuration:

ProcOdt = 48
ProcCaDs = 30
ProcDqDs = 34.3
DramDQDs = 34 or 40

RTT_NOM_RD = 5
RTT_NOM_WR = 4
RTT_WR = 2
RTT_PARK = 4
DQS_RTT_PARK = 5
or
RTT_NOM_RD = 4
RTT_NOM_WR = 4
RTT_WR = 2
RTT_PARK = 5
DQS_RTT_PARK = 5
or
RTT_NOM_RD = 5
RTT_NOM_WR = 5
RTT_WR = 2
RTT_PARK = 5
DQS_RTT_PARK = 6

Also try RTT_WR = 1

go to AMD-->CBS-->DDR Options-->DDR Training Options and set:

RX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX DFE Taps = 1 taps
RX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
TX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
RX DFE Taps = 1 taps
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Thanks DemonAk, I have tested the settings you wrote in every possible configuration, but unfortunately nothing works for me. I can achieve 4200Mhz with impedance + gear down, but anything higher doesn't boot.
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Try ProcOdt 60 or 120 if you not POST with 48 om
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Changing values of ProcOdt doesn't work either. Maybe something is broken on the bios side? This is the first bios on which it is possible to attach 4 sticks of ram on ryzen 9000 series, maybe in the next update they will change something for the better.
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Originally posted by naeq naeq wrote:

Hello,

My system:
Ryzen 9 9950X
AsRock X670E Taichi

I have two kits of Corsair 2x48gb 6600MHz CL32 (CMK96GX5M2B6600C32) (192gb in four sticks). With bios 3.06 motherboard didn't even boot (Error code: EC), but with new bios 3.08 (with AGESA 1.2.0.2) I have successfully booted with 192gb of ram. The problem is, everything works with XMP and 3600Mhz or 3800MHz, but anything higher does not pass ram training.

I have tried changing the impedance, like here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/159xoao/stable_128gb4x32gb_ddr56000_cl30_on_agesa_1007b/

https://youtu.be/NtMIppL9UC4

but nothing works. Is there anything i can do?


Hello!

I have the same motherboard & CPU as you do.
I went with 2x32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM kit.
However, I had to lower the DRAM frequency to 5800MT/s, as with 6000MT/s I had some errors in MemTest86.

When running 4x48GB DIMMs, it's a lot of stress that you put on the memory controller. The official supported speed in that case is 3600MT/s.
You won't be able to go much higher than that!

So, it's a trade between density & speed.
You can't have both!

I'd suggest using only 2 DIMMs, which will be faster & better in most situation.
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time to test these settings:
reset all settings and set in bios:

dram freq: 5200, 5400, 5600, 5800*, 6000*

dram timings: all auto
DFE Read Training = Enabled
Gear Down Mode = Enabled

Once stability is found, you can turn these back to Enabled:
Memory Context Restore = Disabled
Power Down Mode = Disabled

voltages:

VDDIO = VDD = VDDQ = 1.36
VSOC = 1.22 or 1.25
VDDP = auto
VDDG CCD/IOD = auto
VDD Misc = auto

Infinity Fabric = 2000
UCLK = MEMCLK

bus configuration:

ProcOdt = 48
ProcCaDs = 30
ProcDqDs = 34.3
DramDQDs = 34

RTT_NOM_RD = 4
RTT_NOM_WR = 4
RTT_WR = 2
RTT_PARK = 5
DQS_RTT_PARK = 5

go to AMD-->CBS-->DDR Options-->DDR Training Options and set:

RX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX DFE Taps = 2 taps
RX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
TX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
RX DFE Taps = 3 taps

Memory training time will be 3:40 minutes each reboot until you enable these settings
Memory Context Restore = Enabled
Power Down Mode = Enabled
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Also you can try training options
go to AMD-->CBS-->DDR Options-->DDR Training Options and set:

(Training time 4:10 minutes)
RX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX2D_TrainOpt = manual
TX DFE Taps = 3 taps
RX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
TX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
RX DFE Taps = 3 taps
or
(Training time 4:50 minutes)
TX DFE Taps = 4 taps
RX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
TX2D voltage step size (2^n) = 1
RX DFE Taps = 4 taps
or
Auto (longest memory training from 9-12 minutes)
RX2D_TrainOpt = auto
TX2D_TrainOpt = auto
TX DFE Taps = auto
RX DFE Taps = auto

The training time is given for 128 GB. For 192 GB it will be longer
What will be better specifically for you needs to be tested
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