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    Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 11:40pm
My X370 Taichi running a 1700X stock is idling around 100W on average, give or take a few watts. I have no idea why in the world it is idling so high. My buddy loaned me his kilowatt meter and with just the computer turned on, that is what I have been getting. I am running the v3.20 BIOS from 9/13/17.

Here is my build: 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  (Purchased For $301.98) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $159.99) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $191.98) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (Purchased For $143.99) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $399.99) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  (Purchased For $499.99) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  (Purchased For $119.99) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($44.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2145.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The entire motherboard is stock.
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ANightInTexas, seems quite reasonable to me.  If you want more detail, use a utility like AIDA64 (paid, but free trial available) or HWMonitor (free).  There are many.  Some will give readings for CPU, GPU, etc.  It would also be interesting to know what your total power is when sleeping.  Enjoy, John.
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1700x
water pump and 2 fans
motherboard
2 double ranked sticks ram
spinning hard drive
1080
led strips/lights
2 case fans

and you expected it to idle at less than 100watts ?
or to put it another way
you expect all of that system to use less electricity than a normal household light bulb ?
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

1700x
water pump and 2 fans
motherboard
2 double ranked sticks ram
spinning hard drive
1080
led strips/lights
2 case fans

and you expected it to idle at less than 100watts ?
or to put it another way
you expect all of that system to use less electricity than a normal household light bulb ?
I am wondering if there is room for improvement. A friend has "i5, 980, water pump, 4 hard drives, 3 fans and is closer to 50 watts. [i5 is a 4690k overclocked to 4.5 GHz]".


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mine 31w cpu idle (1700 non x)
gpu 14w (rx480)
thats 45w

to take into account a mechanical hard drive (which i dont have) 4 case fans and rgbs and motherboard
yours still sounds exactly right

50watts idle seems a very low figure
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Windows 10 x64 1703
Ryzen 1700X
2x 16GB G.Skill Flare-X 2400MHz (32GB total)
Zotac GTX 1070 8GB Mini
Noctua NH-U14s
Samsung SH-203B DVD-RW
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD (OS)
1x Seagate 160GB ST160318AS HDD
1x Seagate 500GB ST3500418AS HDD
1x Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 1TB
2x Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102
Seasonic Prime Titanium 750td
Fractal Design Define R5
Noctua NF-A14PWM on motherboard header
HP 'Premium' USB headset

WiFi is enabled in UEFI, but the device is disabled in Windows.
A 1920x1200 monitor (on standby) is connected via DisplayPort and USB, and a 1920x1080 TV (on standby) is connected via HDMI.  These are not on the same extension multi-way socket.

The list above is everything that is being measured.  There is one extra thing plugged in and turned on, and that is a pair of speakers which I took off the total.  Total watts is just the PC tower listed above, nothing else.

Using a cheap and simple kW/h meter...

When the machine is idle it's around 55w.
There are occasional spikes because it's on the internet and Windows is Windows.  These make it jump for about 0.5 seconds (whatever the polling interval of the meter is I guess) to around 80w.
GFx fans are set to 30% minimum, CPU fan is set to 20% minimum, extra case fan is set to 30% minimum, and Fractal case controller is set to middle position.

During boot (UEFI fast boot ~20 seconds) it reaches a max of about 125w.

Browsing using Google Chrome is about 75w when just scrolling up down a fully loaded page, and monetarily spikes to 115w when loading something.  Chrome cache is on a RAMDisk, it's profile dir is on a HDD.

Playing F1 2017 with MSI Afterburner set to limit things to 60fps, I guess it spikes to around 200w maximum, but is mostly about 150w.  Don't have any other current games to test with.

I do have indexing and things turned off.  I found a good pro's/con's site and went through each thing step-by-step for when you have SSD and HDDs.  Windows isn't doing too much background stuff.  Of course there is still AV FW duties, defragging on schedule, and anything else the system does but none of those were doing anything during my measurements.

I hope that helps.

Are your fans spinning flat out?
Is there some odd setting you've inadvertently managed to set t a high power use?
X370 TaiChi | 1700X P3.10 stock clocks | (2x 16GB) 32GB FlareX 2400MHz.
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