Windows 10 + Nvidia card problems

maffle wrote: Hello, I have a Z77 Extreme6 and a GTX970, and a friend who has a Z87 Pro3 and a GTX770. We both have the same problem that we get error code 113 bluescreens during Nvidia driver setup, and another black screen issue. I have talked to Nvidia support, and they said I should contact Asrock because they would need to publish a bios update to fully support Windows 10 or fix some issues with it. For example, it can happen that the PC doesnt boot anymore (black screen), when I enable fast boot and disable CSM mode. This is definitely a bug with the BIOS and needs a fix. Please release an updated microcode, ME and VBIOS, also UEFI bug/security fixes. Would be nice hearing some feedback on this. Here is the 113 bsod debug log: 5: kd> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* *                                                                             * *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    * *                                                                             * ******************************************************************************* VIDEO_DXGKRNL_FATAL_ERROR (113) The dxgkrnl has detected that a violation has occurred. This resulted in a condition that dxgkrnl can no longer progress.  By crashing, dxgkrnl is attempting to get enough information into the minidump such that somebody can pinpoint the crash cause. Any other values after parameter 1 must be individually examined according to the subtype. Arguments: Arg1: 000000000000001f, The subtype of the bugcheck: Arg2: ffffe00098b52b80 Arg3: 0000000000000000 Arg4: 0000000000000000 Debugging Details: ------------------ SYSTEM_SKU:  To Be Filled By O.E.M. SYSTEM_VERSION:  To Be Filled By O.E.M. BIOS_DATE:  07/01/2013 BASEBOARD_PRODUCT:  Z77 Extreme6 BASEBOARD_VERSION:                         BUGCHECK_P1: 1f BUGCHECK_P2: ffffe00098b52b80 BUGCHECK_P3: 0 BUGCHECK_P4: 0 CPU_COUNT: 8 CPU_MHZ: d48 CPU_VENDOR:  GenuineIntel CPU_FAMILY: 6 CPU_MODEL: 3a CPU_STEPPING: 9 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT BUGCHECK_STR:  0x113 PROCESS_NAME:  System CURRENT_IRQL:  0 ANALYSIS_VERSION: 10.0.10240.9 amd64fre LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff801c1ff3c3d to fffff80359965d00 snip...

We need to sort out what is going on with at least two issues you seem to be having. The easier one first, the use of Fast Boot and disabling CSM.

If you are disabling CSM, it sounds like you are trying to use the Ultra Fast setting of the Fast Boot option, but you did not state what Fast Boot setting you are using.

How did you install Windows 10? By the upgrade method or fresh/new installation? If a new installation, did you install by booting the installation disk, or use a USB flash drive created from a Win 10 iso file or the Win 10 disk image?

If you used the upgrade to Win 10 method, was your previous OS installation configured to use the EFI bootloader?

I'm trying to determine if Win 10 was installed for EFI booting. The Ultra Fast boot setting with CSM disabled can only be used if Win 10 was installed to use the EFI bootloader. What is the entry for the OS boot drive in the boot order list that you are using?

You mentioned a VBIOS update, which is normally needed by a video source to be GOP compatible. GOP video protocol compatibility of the VBIOS is required when using the EFI bootloader.

The problem with your request is the VBIOS that is included in the UEFI/BIOS of the boards you listed is the VBIOS for the Intel integrated graphics in the processors you use.

When you use a video card, it is the VBIOS of the video card that is used, and it must be GOP compatible in order to disable CSM. I had to update the VBIOS of a GTX 650 I used with an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 board before I could disable CSM. The factory VBIOS version did not support GOP.

Intel integrated graphics as far back as the Sandy Bridge HD 3000 series are GOP compatible, as long as the board's UEFI/BIOS has a compatible VBIOS. The ASRock Z77 Extreme series of boards all received a VBIOS update for the Intel graphics in 2012. The Z77 Extreme6 board got that update in UEFI/BIOS version 1.90. We don't know what UEFI/BIOS version you are using with your Z77 Extreme6 board.

Nvidia based video cards of the 700 and newer series should/can be GOP compatible from the factory, but that can depend on the card's manufacture. No idea who made the cards you listed.

I've used both the Intel graphics and the GTX 650 with updated VBIOS, with my Z77 Extreme4 board with CSM disabled, and it boots and works fine. An ASRock Z87 board will have a GOP compatible VBIOS for the Intel graphics out of the box from the factory.

A good test for you is trying to boot with CSM disabled, while using the Intel integrated graphics. If it works fine, then the VBIOS problem is the video card's.

If booting fails using the Intel graphics with CSM disabled, then that normally means your Windows installation is not configured for EFI booting. That means you must use CSM, and cannot use the Ultra Fast boot setting.

Given the information you provided so far, there is no proof a UEFI/BIOS bug exists on those boards.

An "updated microcode, ME and VBIOS...", are things that would be provided by Intel only, if they were actually needed.

The "UEFI bug/security fixes" you mentioned are two different things, one of which (security fixes) is mentioned in that statement for the first time in your post. What security fixes are you referring to?

Next the apparent driver problem. We know you and your friend are using Windows 10, and you had a 113 BSOD during a driver installation. While the "dxgkrnl" is part of an Nvidia driver, we can see this in the Debugging Details you posted:

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT

What driver version are you using, and from whom/where was it downloaded? Sure doesn't appear to be a Windows 10 driver.