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I reasently updated the BIOS from 1.4 to 1.5.
In the prosess, it show a "checkerboard" where colors where changing as the prosess went on.
I noticed that some of the squears diden't - an handfull stayed white.

So if this fenomen is not what it should be - could it be the cause of M.2. not showing ?
And would it be recomendable to repeet the prosess ?
And how is this done the best way ?

Many questions from me........
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Sorry for the misspelling.
I'm Norwegian......
Hope You understand most of it.
It should be "from 1.3 to 1.5"
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Experimenal tryouts.

Installing :
When coosing USB "name on DVD-drive" :

"Hardware may not support booting to this disk. Disk kontroller must be enabled in bios".

Earlier efforts has been done with this.

When coosing UEFI "name on DVD-drive" :
"Disk has an MBR partiton table. On EFI systems windows can only be insalled to GPT disks."
Formatting did not help.

When coosing UEFI Built-in EFI Shell :
Before installer starts the screen become black with some writing I do not understand.
I aborted the prosess.

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BIOS in : Adv./Storage Conf.

SATA Contr.                                  Enabl.

SATA Mode AHCI AMD BIOS Rom - Dis.
SATA/IDE Comb.                           Dis.
Aggressive Link Power                   Enabl.
SAMART                                       Enabl.

SATA3_5 - Samsung 850

No one else listed.

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Adv./Storage Conf.

SATA Mode                       RAID

UEFI Mode For GP...          Dis.

Onboard 3TB+ Unlocker - UEFI Mode For GPT Partition.

Coosing this when installing results in ASROCK on screene instead of windows flag, and it do not proceede. DVD stops after a hvile.

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WOW - I JUST DIDIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wil be back With the recepie !
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Wow this is great !
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I edited this post. The new beneth is better.












Edited by Finnipinni - 06 Sep 2015 at 11:26pm
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So I'll be the first ? (never in my life before)

This morning I stumled over some cryptical letters : GPT.

Investigating this learned me that any NVMe must be GPT - NOT MBR. (formatting means establishing MBR - no other chois that I could find)

So do this at first :
Open Command Promt Admin
Type diskpart/list disk/select disk 1 (the disk number) clean/convert GPT

In BIOS :
Boot/CSM
CSM                 - Enab.
PXE OpRom      - Not Launch

Storage OpRom - UEFI only

Video OpRom    - Legacy only
In Boot preferens i see : Windows Boot Manager (First time I see this)

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Advaced/Storage Conf.

SATA C.             - Enabl.

SATA Mode         - RAID mode

Onb.raid 3TB+    - UEFI mode for GPT

SATA IDE Comb. - Dis.

Note that SM951 are not shown anywhere.
Of 4 attached SSD only these are shown :
SATA3_4 INTEL 520 (MBR)

SATA3_5 Samsung 850 (GPT)

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Instaling.
I trust no one - let the SM951 be left alone SSD.

The instaler program is now running. The SM951 are shown in 2 paritions. Be shure not to choose the EFI part. No need for formatting !
1. restart after 9min, then ALOT of questions and re-starts......

And this Pc stopped in the reset program an screen went black - it had to be stopped by holding the button Down for as long as it takes to force it to stop.
Then after update : All Works fine :)

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In Windows/ThisPc - only SM951 and Intel 520 are shown

In Disk manager SM951 = disk 1 - Intel 520 = 0
I need at least one more SSD - Why so ? Some more adjustment i BIOS ?
I converted Samsung 850 to GPT - this is shown in BIOS but NOT in This Comp. or in Disk manager.
I gladly take advice on this matter too :)

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Great. I wonder now if the AHCI version need the same configuration ?
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That I haven't investigated, but I will think so.
I'm an retired Electronic tecnician. These matters are all new to me.
The GPT protocoll is - as I understand - to take over for the older MBR.
All types of disks can use this. Disks over 3TB MUST.
So we wil learn to make use of it no matter.
UEFI BIOS is also a must for using GPT.
In all this - I belive an AHCI wil work following the precidure.
So get going - and good Luck With it :)


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After alot of coffe, little update to my earlier posts.
First of all : There are no such word as "UEFI BIOS" It's either UEFI or BIOS.

UEFI has taken over for the old BIOS in 2007, now running version 2,5.

Got my first mobo with UEFI about 2011, so it's about time to make full use of it !
UEFI has the capability to run in both BIOS and UEFI in order to handle equipment that are not UEFI combatible as well. This feature is called CSM (CompabilitySupportModule), and are by default Enabled.


Today all equipment are UEFI combatible.

Only the disks needs any "tampering".
BIOS format disks in BMR(MasterBootRecord)

UEFI format disks in GPT(GuidePartitionTable)

To make use of both MBR- and GPT -disks, CSM has to be "fiddled" with.

Running GPT on all internal disks means you should disable CSM.
Advatages : Better security, a littel faster operation and use of big disks.

Installing NVMe disks like the SM951 have some demands.
They are not wery well taken care of in UEFA 2.5.
Full advantages is only possible in UEFI and has to be formatted in GPT.

In UEFI Mode, Windows 10 installer program will not find an MBR disk (in UEFI called Legacy disk). And will not find any place to load.
Formatting in the program means to establish the MBR !!

So, in UEFI the OS-disk has to be formatted in GPT in advance, regardless of disk type.

Rest of the disks may be formatted in GPT when W10 is installed.
In UEFI : also set USB3 handling to AUTO, then USB will handle both MBR and GPT.


How to make GPT disks :
In Disk Mangement :
The chois MBR to GPT are in R.click menu when pointing the disk in the left collumn.

1. Format 2. Choose Delete Volume. 3. MBR to GPT. 4. R.click unallocated volume/new simple volume, and follow the precidure (Next all the way). You can label the disk later.

In Command promt (admin) :

Type diskpart/list disk/select disk 1 (the disk number) clean/convert GPT

Both ways will cleene the disk completly, so backup all you want to keep !
There are programs who can do this without loss. I investigated one of them - it was complicated.....

So many words....
Simplest way to get success, is first to format OS-disk to GPT.
In UEFI :
Disable GSM.
Set USB3 handling as suggested.
Then no problem should occure.

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