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    Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 1:40pm
I am having trouble installing Windows 10 to an AHCI m.2 SSD on my Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac motherboard.

I am using a Ryzen 3 2200G and I have successfully upgraded the BIOS to P4.40 .  

I disabled CSM (compatibility support module) , boot to a UEFI usb stick with Win10 installation on it, and I can choose to install to the Unallocated space on the m.2 SSD (no SATA drives are hooked up).  The SSD drive is a 128gb Samsung AHCI SM951.

The problem is that when the files finish copying to the SSD and the computer reboots, the Windows Boot Loader does not appear and thus I have no way to finish the installation and boot to Windows.  (the only thing I can do is boot to the UEFI USB again, but that just leads to starting over to install Windows , not what I want).

any ideas?  

i am so close to getting this machine up and running (after getting AMD to send me a boot kit so I could flash the BIOS to P4.40) ... but this part is very frustrating!

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First and most important thing:   The 4.40 BIOS you updated to is broken, you will have a world od problems trying to use it. Please update again, you will find BETA BIOS 4.43 at the bottom of the list of BIOS versions. This is the one to use.
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Thanks, upgrading the BIOS has mostly fixed the problem.  The computer recognizes the Windows Boot Loader and I was able to get Windows running.

It does seem like if I plug different devices into the USB ports upon booting up the computer it can cause the BIOS to not recognize the Windows Boot Loader and then the system either hangs at the ASRock splash screen or enters the BIOS and I can't see the Windows Boot Loader.  In the past I've reset to BIOS defaults or unplugged the devices and rebooted and can, with a couple of tries, get it to boot to Windows again.  I also tried disabling all the other boot devices except the Windows Boot Loader and the P0 AHCI (the ssd) and maybe that will bring some stability to the boot process.

strange issues, but at least a mostly working system!
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Glad you are up and running!
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Did you use the very latest and freshest Windows 10 installer? If you used an older one (from 2017, say) and then installed a mass of updates you're likely to have some problems. I noticed that the new installer asks different questions. For example, the first thing it wants to do is set up a Microsoft account or log into an existing one. The older installer I used to use didn't do that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 12:25am
Good point JohnM:  I had a copy that I thought was older, so rather than use, just went to MS site and downloaded most recent ISO.......
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I did install the latest Win10 and, as you said, one of the first things it did was connect to the Internet and asked me to sign in with my microsoft account.

i haven't build a system in like 5+ years (I'm back from MacLand) and the complications that booting from PCIe storage devices (like M.2 SSD, etc) along with more complicated and finicky UEFI BIOS programs makes the process more complicated than it was in the past, but then again PCIe storage devices are FAST so once you get going it's worth it!  
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bkamppsch, I hope you know you can decline the Microsoft Account and use the old type (as I do).  Enjoy, John.
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i may have spoken too soon on having a "working" system... the P4.43 BIOS showed me 2 blue screens within a span of ~10 minutes while i was streaming a movie from Amazon.  also seemed like the (built-in) WiFi became disconnected.  since this is a HTPC , this is obviously a big problem if WiFi and streaming causes problems.

i went back to P4.40 to see if the issue occured... it did not after ~15 minutes.  but then i am back to intermittent issues with recognizing the Windows Boot Loader on my SDD.  why the UEFI would recognize the Windows Boot Loader and successfully load Windows sometimes but not others seems especially strange to me.

i may give up on using the M.2 ssd and install Windows to the a SATA ssd.  this should get around the boot issues (but is not what i want :)   if that system runs stable on the P4.40 maybe call it a day?

@stree why do you say that the P4.40 has lots of issues?  it clearly has some boot issues, but I had never seen a Windows 10 blue screen until today on the Beta P4.43...
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Far too many examples of different problems from different users re: 4.40 for me to start quoting.
Believe me, it was not a random comment, please take some time to explore issues that people have had with AB350 ITX and X370 ITX and see how many relate to BIOS 4.40.
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