moved from 1500X to 2400g on B350 PRO4

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   Hello
Was lurking at this option for quite some time and decided to bite the bullet this week-end ordering a 2400G in replacement of my 1500X taking advatange of AMAZON 30day return policy if things dont go well

3 main reasons I am trying this move
1) Could not OC the 1500X higher than 3.9ghz at 1.4V even with a recent AIO addition in place of teh Spire cooler
2) CORSAIR LPX RAM would not clock higher than 3066Mhz
3) Selling my GTX1080 now 2nd hand prices are still high in view of funding what new DGPU comes later this year so the 2400g woudl allow me to game, granted at much lower resolution and fps, during that period

Updated BIOS to 4.7 on my B350 PRO4 and post went well, initial test in games show I can OC the chip to 4.1Ghz at 1.4V so its positive for a start

But I found out few annoying issues you might help with

1) I still cant OC to the 3200Mhz its rated for, getting BSOB if OC in the Bios or crash in windows doing so with Ryzen Master software
2) Got an issue while connecting the Board via HDMI, message on screen like Monitor timing input needs to be adjusted balbla.It finally post in Windows but I cant reach the BIOS beforehand.Fix I found is to connect a VGA cable to the same monitor at the same time
3)I have managed to OC the iGPU to 1600Mhz core using 1.15V on both Gfx voltage and SOC voltage while maintaining a 4Ghz CPU OC, but thats via Ryzen Master and I need to restart Windows every time I want to apply the OC and the clocks(both CPU and iGPU)dont scale down after a gaming session even using Windows Power Management.I need to check if Atuning Asrock OC utility would allow me to manage that downclock, at least for teh CPU part, but I a feel I am stuck with the IGPU.
it seems MSI Afterburner is not working to alter IGpu behavior or am I missing something?

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nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: moved from 1500X to 2400g on B350 PRO4 Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 9:48am
	Hello Was lurking at this option for quite some time and decided to bite the bullet this week-end ordering a 2400G in replacement of my 1500X taking advatange of AMAZON 30day return policy if things dont go well 3 main reasons I am trying this move 1) Could not OC the 1500X higher than 3.9ghz at 1.4V even with a recent AIO addition in place of teh Spire cooler 2) CORSAIR LPX RAM would not clock higher than 3066Mhz 3) Selling my GTX1080 now 2nd hand prices are still high in view of funding what new DGPU comes later this year so the 2400g woudl allow me to game, granted at much lower resolution and fps, during that period Updated BIOS to 4.7 on my B350 PRO4 and post went well, initial test in games show I can OC the chip to 4.1Ghz at 1.4V so its positive for a start But I found out few annoying issues you might help with 1) I still cant OC to the 3200Mhz its rated for, getting BSOB if OC in the Bios or crash in windows doing so with Ryzen Master software 2) Got an issue while connecting the Board via HDMI, message on screen like Monitor timing input needs to be adjusted balbla.It finally post in Windows but I cant reach the BIOS beforehand.Fix I found is to connect a VGA cable to the same monitor at the same time 3)I have managed to OC the iGPU to 1600Mhz core using 1.15V on both Gfx voltage and SOC voltage while maintaining a 4Ghz CPU OC, but thats via Ryzen Master and I need to restart Windows every time I want to apply the OC and the clocks(both CPU and iGPU)dont scale down after a gaming session even using Windows Power Management.I need to check if Atuning Asrock OC utility would allow me to manage that downclock, at least for teh CPU part, but I a feel I am stuck with the IGPU. it seems MSI Afterburner is not working to alter IGpu behavior or am I missing something?
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM

cx5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 Sep 2017 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 2383	Post Options Post Reply Quote cx5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 5:44pm
	@nolive721, If you can share your Thaiphoon Burner nanoseconds, may be @daytonb can work out a set of timing for you. I have not got my timinng nice, hence I don't have solid solutions for you, just some discussion chit chat only if you don't mind. btw my CMK32GX4M2B3000C15 up 3200MHZ up CL16,18,18,18,36,57,6,9,34,4,12,24,5,5,560,16,12,6,3,1,7,7,1,5,5,8, 1.365v timing is no longer working now, it will not even boot now, I only managed to enjoy 3200 for a week only, then all fails after that. Currently back on 2933. Edited by cx5 - 23 Apr 2018 at 9:15pm
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cristy6100 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 269	Post Options Post Reply Quote cristy6100 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 6:46pm
	For the moment, when overclocking you cannot downclock the GPU, its a UEFI/Driver issue and has no current fix, regarding overclocking its best to leave it without until new UEFI's arrive, the CPU can boost by itself to 3.8GHz on all cores, end even 4GHz on 1-2 cores with good cooling, but keep the temperatures in check, the CPU temperature reported by UEFI is not the true CPU temperature, that temperature is the AM4 socket temperature, you can find the true CPU cores temperature in Ryzen Master, or HWMonitor by checking the "CPU Package Temperature", my 2400G even with Water Cooling @ 4150MHz with 1.45V reaches 65C in IntelBurnTest, if you are using the stock cooler dont overclock at all, because with the stock cooler the CPU will already reach about 60-70C in load when the GPU is stressed also, when overclocked the TDP goes to about 125-140W for the 2400G from the 65W default If you manually overclock you looses adaptive voltage/frequency. The 2200G/2400G have Precision Boost 2.0 and mXFR like Ryzen 2600X/2700X so its best to leave the CPU the manage itself, if you want just max benchmark scores you can manually overclock, but for best 24/7 performance dont manually overclock the CPU part. Regarding the GPU maybe ASRock will implement normal GPU frequency menu in UEFI, not a HEX one and enable GPU adaptive frequency in next UEFI, until then the safest way its tru Ryzen Master to overclock the GPU. But you gain much more from overclocking the RAM, going from say 2666 to 3333MHz will offer at least 10FPS min. across the board or even more, overclocking the GPU to 1600MHz will offer another 5-10FPS across the board. PS You cannot overclock the GPU tru MSI Afterburner for the moment, maybe they will add support in the near future (I think MSI Afterburner is a POS but to each his own) Overclock the GPU with Ryzen Master Cheers Edited by cristy6100 - 24 Apr 2018 at 3:25am
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nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 7:44am
	@cx5 I did an attempt few months ago to recah beyond 3066Mhz on my Corsair RAM using RAM timing calculator tool provided at overclock.net but I was not successful. I was hoping the new asrock BIOS plus maybe a better IMC in my 2400g would help but early testing days proved otherwise. I would need maybe to bump teh SOC voltage in teh BIOS but since there are HEX values input,I need to do some correlation work. Really Asrock why HEX???? thanks again for your input @cristy1600 I have seen your several post about how CPU OC would effect the GPU performance. I did last night few runs on project cars leaving the CPU OC alone and OCing the GPU via RyzenMaster(1600Mhz core with 1.15V GFX and SOC voltage as I mentioned in my post yesterday) Capturing FPS with RTTS and HW64, I dont see significant performance increase or reduced stuttering to be completely honest.I would need to run some proper data logging on FPS and frame times to really see if there are effects at all I am running my 2400g with an AIO (IDCOOLING Frostflow+ 240, highly recommended considering it cost me less than 60USD) and temps in gaming are in the low 50s and high 60s in AIDA64 stress testing. that is checking with SV12 sensor which has been reliable to me during my 1500X OCing period. next week is holiday in Japan so I will ahve more time to do proper testing unless ASROCK released the new AGESA bios by teh way, found naother issue last night. I am using a USB keyboard but plugged in the PS2 slot in my MB, which works fine during Boot and in Windows, as it used to be with previous Bios and 1500X chip, but now after my PC wakes up from sleep, the keyboard is not recognized anymore,I cant input my password to get back into Windows!!!! has anyone experienced this issue? Any new setting in the new Bios I should change to get that issue fixed? this is really pure annoyance because I did some troubleshooting and if I plug the keyboard in an USB port the there is no issue to recover from sleep.just crazy.
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM

nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 7:56am
	I forgot to mention in regards to stuttering.I am using a basic DELL Freesync monitor with 45 to 75Hz refresh rate range so it might of course help with leveling up any frame issues in gaming.
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM

cristy6100 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 269	Post Options Post Reply Quote cristy6100 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 9:38am
	When I mention stuttering I am reffering to lock ups see here the behaviour : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dggzOlFvm38 I am also using a Freesync monitor, a Philips 32" with the same range as yours, up to 75Hz. I used to have the same issues with any USB device plugged in the "Fatal1ty" USB ports, after some time it would just lock and unplugging the device and plugging back in would not work, I needed to change the USB hub completely, but that was using Bristol Ridge CPU, with the Raven Ridge CPU the problem went away, that or the latest UEFI updates fixed it, I don't have the Bristol Ridge CPU to test again unfortunately but you are using the PS2 ports, maybe someone else can confirm the issues because I dont have a USB to PS2 adapter at hand. Edited by cristy6100 - 24 Apr 2018 at 9:39am
	Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G \| ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 \| Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V \| Corsair RM650i PSU \| CM ML120L AiO Cooler

nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 2:54pm
	thanks.will check tonight when back home if time permits. RAM bandwidth seems really important to get these fps up from the chip though so I think I need to concentrate back on my CORSAIR RAM OC from now on and observe whats happening on the AGESA fix you mentioned in some of your posts
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM

nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 8:17am
	started to play again with RAM OCing and found out something I didnt know.If you OC CPU with Asrock setting, you get access to RAM OC frequency as 3066Mhz(what I was at until yesterday) then 3200 is the next one PC would post in windows at XMP 3200 but gave me straight away BSOD whatever Ram voltage I set(tried up to 1.4V) or with SOC voltage at 1.2V (VID 38) Then I tried the CPU AMD CBS OC setting and went into teh somehow hidden RAM OC tabs in the BIOS to find out that there is another frequency in between, 3133Mhz, and my PC is now running happily at that RAM frequency with 1.35V RAM voltage and 1.15V SOC voltage (VID 40) so its improving next would be to work out different timings since I have already disable geardown, the Booting stuff and run PROCT at 60Ohm and Cmd rate at 1T wish me luck
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM

cristy6100 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 269	Post Options Post Reply Quote cristy6100 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 8:26am
	You should not have to boost the SoC voltage past default, the CPU can handle up to 3466MHz memory without problems with stock SOC voltage of 1.1V, are you sure you cant boot the memory kit at 3133MHz with stock SoC voltage? Edited by cristy6100 - 25 Apr 2018 at 5:10pm
	Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G \| ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 \| Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V \| Corsair RM650i PSU \| CM ML120L AiO Cooler

nolive721 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Location: japan Status: Offline Points: 87	Post Options Post Reply Quote nolive721 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 9:30am
	I have the SOC VID at 38 which shows in HWINFO64 as 1.15V.I will set SOC VID as default to achieve 1.1V to see if I can post and stress test as I did achieve last night Edited by nolive721 - 25 Apr 2018 at 9:31am
	3500X 4.4Ghz at 1.25V B550M Steel legend; 16GB CORSAIR LPX-3200 C16 running at 3333Mhz; 248GB NVME; VEGA 64 LC GPU OC 1700Mhz core 1150Mhz VRAM