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gizmic 
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 Topic: X470 Gaming K4 - unstable and win crashesPosted: 13 Jun 2018 at 4:53pm |
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there are times you need to manual set things as ram/cpu not made equally i cant run on 3466 (yet) on relaxed timings
my kits are not in the list but i'm patience and do trial & error. Did you confirm with cpu-z that the timings are the same as xmp? which dram volts and soc i'd start somewhere like copy the timings that works for you as you said earlier for example 2933 and compare it with the auto xmp settings if they are different just try to run 2933 timings and push the clocks to 3200. if they are both the same then your best bet is to run them in the same timings as the amd certified ones like
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Mistle
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Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 6:31pm |
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Just info. Last night during working with virualbox, system crashed .
Info was about problems with memory management. Lost work in host and in virtual system.  Something is wrong beetwen this motherboard and corsair memory. Maybe my bad decision that I bought corsair memory. Damn  Didn't suspect such great incompatibility  Can someone recommend me memory which work with this mainboard at 3200MHz but from experience not from compatibility sheet ?
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datonyb
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Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 1:56am |
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Mistle
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Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 10:44pm |
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Installing new win OS is more or less easy thing ( I remember times when I had to do it by floppy drive), On the other hand reinstalling all application is pesky thing. But I've reinstalled OS.
After few tests on new OS nothing really changed , system is stable on 2933 Mhz . I could raise to 3066Mhz and somewhere here is red line which I can't accross. Even with highier voltage. Achieve 3200 Mhz seems to be beyond reach . Also nothing changed with soundblaster features, I have audio but can't use sounblaster features. Drivers don't recognise sounblaster with last bios upgrade. So a lot of work and nothing really changes.
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datonyb
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Posted: 31 May 2018 at 2:21am |
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ok follow these steps please grab a usb stick (8gb) go to windows media creation tool webpage (use google to find) follow instructions to create a bootable win10 usb (make sure you select the version that you have the serial for (it is win10 64bit ? ) then do a fresh clean install (this will not need loads of updates as it will be the current version) next go to amd support direct and grab the chipset drivers now back to windows and use windows update for any remaining drivers DO ALL OF THIS ON STOCK CPU AND STOCK RAM SETTINGS................ if you have an ssd AND a large storage spinning hard drive it seems prudent to actually install the os on the large drive and then use the free x470 program for combining drives for ssd speed
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Mistle
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Posted: 30 May 2018 at 5:13pm |
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Okie , you convinced me to install fresh win10, I hope I will be able to do it during weekend
 Than I come back to issue with unstable memory at 3200 Mhz but I afraid that without resolving it in bios it could be impossible. I see alot of topics with problems about memory with Ryzens and poor support from AMD in these cases. I didn't suspect that is so big problem  Issue nr 2. Not working sounblaster features after bios upgrades. I think it's a problem with old drivers for realtec. With bios upgrade nobody changed drivers . But it would be nice if someone from Asrock can confirm it.
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Xaltar
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Posted: 30 May 2018 at 3:13am |
I couldn't agree more. Windows 10 is fiddly at the best of times, downright obnoxious when you are not running a fresh install on new hardware. Literally every issue I have had with my Ryzen system turned out to be Windows 10 related, not hardware (aside from RAM speeds). I had intermittent 10 - 40 second freezes, replaced every component in my system, reinstalled windows upwards of 10 times and nothing cured it. Eventually I put the original config back together and tried one last fresh install, I had lost my install USB so downloaded the latest Win 10 installation and made a new one. Problem solved. Turned out it was an update that was failing to install on my older install medium. I tested by reinstalling on another drive with the old USB installer, the problem was back. The moral of the story, always download the latest install medium and make a clean install when you upgrade major components, especially motherboard.
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datonyb
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Posted: 30 May 2018 at 1:08am |
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the ram could maybe make the 3200 speed using the ryzen dram calculator but i wouldnt advise this on a basically unstable windows install,we have seen time and time again problems with win10 when used on a new system without a clean install which is exactly why i asked that question
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Posted: 29 May 2018 at 9:52pm |
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You should clean install OS because your using different chipset and drivers on you previous system. Even uninstalling it will still have system unstable.
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