z97 Extreme 6 SSD Problem

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   So my set up is this
Pentium G3258
ASRock Extreme 6 z97
8gb of ram
980 Ti
EVGA 750w P2 Power Supply
Win 8.1 Pro

My motherboard finds my SSD just fine, but not on first boot.

So when I shut it down, it takes awhile, it's kinda strange but I figure what ever.

When I boot it up again after a complete shut down, it doesn't find the ssd, but after a reboot, it finds it. then I can boot into windows np.

Anybody know why this is? 

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Muezick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Muezick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: z97 Extreme 6 SSD Problem Posted: 03 Oct 2015 at 2:25am
	So my set up is this Pentium G3258 ASRock Extreme 6 z97 8gb of ram 980 Ti EVGA 750w P2 Power Supply Win 8.1 Pro My motherboard finds my SSD just fine, but not on first boot. So when I shut it down, it takes awhile, it's kinda strange but I figure what ever. When I boot it up again after a complete shut down, it doesn't find the ssd, but after a reboot, it finds it. then I can boot into windows np. Anybody know why this is?

parsec Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996	Post Options Post Reply Quote parsec Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Oct 2015 at 2:46pm
	What model of SSD are you using? There are a few that are not compatible with the newer Intel chipsets, which may be causing your problem. There is a setting in the UEFI/BIOS, in the Storage Configuration screen that should be set for an SSD. If you click on a drive listed on that screen, you can select a Drive type, Hard Disk Drive or SSD. That should be set to SSD. Your board has three SATA controllers, the main Intel and (two) secondary ASMedia. The four ASMedia SATA ports are at the top of the stack of ports, looking at the board mounted in a PC case. The six Intel SATA ports are below them. The Intel ports have better performance and are more reliable. If you have your SSD connected to any of the ASMedia ports, change the cable to one of the Intel SATA ports.


Muezick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Muezick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Oct 2015 at 2:54pm
	The SSD in question is a Kingston SV200S3, from 2011 or there abouts. So yes it is old. It's currently plugged into Sata port 0 which is an Intel Sata Controller and it's set to SSD. Even when you go into the BIOS when the SSD isn't being detected (As described above) it's still set to SSD, even if it says there's nothing detected there.

parsec Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996	Post Options Post Reply Quote parsec Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Oct 2015 at 4:12pm
	That is not one of the SSDs known to not be compatible with those Intel chipsets, but other things may be a factor. I noticed a firmware update for your SSD, Rev. E120506a, that has these Release Notes: http://media.kingston.com/support/downloads/SV200S3_e120506a_Release_Notes.pdf Note one of the updates is "Enhanced start-up time", which hints at what may be causing your issue. Check the firmware version of your SSD, and perhaps an update will help.


Muezick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Muezick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Oct 2015 at 9:58pm
	Current Firmware on the SSD is E120506a which I checked on recently as well. This motherboard was given to me and the previous owner had thought it was malfunctioning. After resetting the cmos, most things he thought were broken seemed to function again, so I'm wondering if that isn't just part of the package deal. Free 200 Dollar motherboard, stipulation? It's a bit buggy. My main concern is if this will cause damage to the SSD, but now that I think about it, this particular SSD used to do this on my old p8p67m-Pro (Rev 3.0) motherboard as well, but only while I was running windows 10 and only after windows 10 froze up due to driver failure. So I am wondering if there isn't something going on during shut down that's causing this. It does tend to hang after I shut it down. Windows shuts down, screens go black, but the computer stays on for another 5 seconds or so then finally turns off long after windows seems to have turned off. Maybe I should create a system image, do a fresh install of 8.1 and see if that fixes it, then restore from the image.

Muezick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Muezick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 2015 at 10:13am
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guitonoklops9 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Dec 2020 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote guitonoklops9 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Dec 2020 at 5:38am
	Greetings! I'm reviving this ancient thread b/c I had a problem similar to the one listed here which I've SOLVED. Actually, this is the second time I solved it and after the first time I FORGOT what I did, which was maddening. Posting here so that I remember the fix and, also, just in case anyone else can benefit from this. My modest computer: a Asrock Z97 Extreme 6 \| Intel i-5 4460 \| Corsair Vengeance 8GB \| Radeon RX 580 \| Corsair SSD Booting was problematic. Sometimes, the machine would turn on, but the case/cpu fans wouldn't spin as fast as normal. Often, the machine would turn on and then off again after 2-3 sec - usually after that I wouldn't reach POST. If I cleared the CMOS I might have had a shot at booting, but not reliably. Sometimes, I'd have success by turning the power off on my power supply, holding the power button in to release any residual juice and then powering up. Even that didn't work every time. I've been scouring the internet for solutions, this thread is the closest I found. Went through every component to narrow it down and it seems like this is SATA related. And spent a lot of time tinkering. I found the difference between the ASMedia SATA (top 4 connectors, I believe) and the Intel SATA (lower 6 connectors) to be pertinent here. First, make sure to connect to the Intel ports as they're more reliable. The secret sauce for me was to make sure that the SSD boot drive was plugged into the FIRST Intel SATA port: that would be the one on the left, 3rd row down. Once I did this, all boot problems were solved. If I connect my old ASUS SATA DVD-writer to the port just adjacent to the SSD drive the computer would again exhibit boot problems. But if the ASUS drive was located in the SATA port in the next row, problem solved! I also made sure to enter the BIOS and set my boot drive correctly to "SSD" under the "Storage Configuration" settings. Once this problem was solved, the computer has been ROCK SOLID! But man, did this one frustrate the living hell out of me. I just threw some memory in but I'll hold off for another few years on upgrading the mobo and cpu if I can, b/c I'm just like that. I hope this helps someone else if their still on this board!