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071W ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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Hello All,
I currently have the Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac with BIOS 3.0 and running ryzen 1600. I am planning to to upgrade my CPU to ryzen 3600x in the next few months. Here is ASRock bios table: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS There are a few questions I have: Looking at the bios upgrade section of the motherboard on ASRock website I see I will need first flash my bios to 3.6 Bridge, then to 5.3 and lastly to 5.7 (also install the AMD all in one drivers) What I would like to know is during each flash of the bios do I need to reset the CMOS battery? Once I flash to 5.7 do I then shutdown my system reset CMOS and then install the Ryzen 3600x? Lastly should I expect any issues? Is there anything else I need to be aware of? Should I proceed and install the very latest 6.6 BIOS or stick with 5.7? Just want to be prepared as much as I can before I proceed. Many thanks in advance, Milo |
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datonyb ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3139 |
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easy peasey
first tell wife and kids to go out the house (as this will be the only time 'they' trip the electric ,while your flashing a bios) then reset bios to defaults reboot and double check its at defaults then flash to the bridge bios circa v3xxx reboot to bios check version flashed reset defaults again flash to the v5xxx bridge bios reboot to bios check version reset to defaults you dont need allinone if you have seperate gpu (its for the apu chips) insert your 3600 (not sure why you want an X version) but hey its your money then boot to bios check everything is detected flashing further up than the 3xxx series bios is up to you and remember sometimes newer versions actually are worse than earlier ones boot windows check everything is happy then return to bios to set the XMP ram settings etc |
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071W ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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Thank you for the reply! I am using silverstone ML08 case so I havent got too much room for a tall CPU cooler. I used to have Cryorig C7 and then installed AMD Wraith Stealth (C7 broke recently and Stealth is a lot quieter). Little bit concerned now that Ryzen 5 3600x or Ryzen 7 3700x might be running a little hot inside the case with low profile coolers. You mention:
Did you mean 5xxx instead of 3xxx? When you say Reset defaults you mean removing the motherboard battery and resetting CMOS? Lastly... in your opinion. Is it worth to upgrade to either 3600x or 3700x on this motherboard to save a few ££ or sell it and get a more recent one? Thanks! |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 23993 |
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Reset to UEFI defaults is an option in the BIOS, it's a firmware soft reset.
Doing this before a BIOS update helps prevent corruption and headaches. As for upgrading your board, the only benefit would be PCIe 4.0 support and precision boost 2. The first would be useful for faster NVME drive support and the second will yield a small performance advantage but IMO, neither are really worth it in a small form factor setup. I would take the proven stability of your existing board over a negligible performance bump that may not even apply with the thermals in your setup. Just my 2c ![]() |
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071W ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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Would there be any concerns if I stick Ryzen 7 3800x on the motherboard after upgrading the bios or there isn't any difference whether I go with 3600x or 3800x? Thank you! |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 23993 |
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Thermals would be the first concern. Honestly, in an SFF setup I would go with
a 3600 (non-x) so you can stick with the stealth cooler. Unless you are either doing number crunching or using a high end GPU with hopes of high FPS in gaming the 3600 should be more than adequate. A 3600 handles even high end GPUs more than well enough for a 60fps+ experience. If you really need more CPU grunt then maybe look at the 5600. The 5600 will perform close to the 3800x but use far less power and generate a lot less heat. IMO, the 3600 is the sweet spot for an ITX build though. It runs relatively cool for the performance it provides. If you really want a power house I wouldn't be looking at an ITX setup, a slightly larger case paired with an mATX board will open up your cooling options and allow more powerful, typically hot running components. Your setup can certainly accommodate the 3800x but you would need to run better cooling than the stealth cooler, you will throttle so badly that you end up with worse performance than the 3600. Edited by Xaltar - 29 Jun 2021 at 1:51pm |
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071W ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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Hi, I think I got convinced to maybe expand a little bit more. I do work with 3d, video and image processing from home on my computer and I think going with Ryzen 7 might be a little productive. This upgrade will be covered by my company - we might not have a lot of budget to spend on the best but I think I should be able to go with Ryzen 7 3800x. Looking at benchmarks there doesn't seem to be too much benefit going with 3800x so perhaps 3700x will be a better option. You mention "paired with an mATX board" If I went with a bigger case I can still stay with my micro-itx right? It should fit in the Deepcool Macube 110 case and still be able to accommodate a large more powerful cooler. Going back to the earlier replies regarding resetting to defaults, I went into bios just to have a look where it is and found this page. Is that where I reset the bios to defaults after each flash ? ![]() Thank you, |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 23993 |
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It will certainly improve your thermals but an mATX board will have a better VRM section and cooling, thus allowing more efficient heat dissipation. That said, it should be perfectly adequate with a decent cooler and your ITX board provided you don't overclock (pointless with Ryzen 3000 and beyond anyway).
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071W ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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Hi Everyone!
I just wanted to pop in and say that I have successfully upgraded my PC to ryzen 7 3700x with the bios update 5.7. I followed the steps you all suggested and it worked all fine! thank you so much for your help! I will probably pop in with another thread in the near future in regards to Secureboot and tpm on my motherboard when Win 11 comes out since my pc check software seems to require it! Thank you, stay safe! Milo |
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