Boot X99 Extreme11 - Samsung 950 PCIe/NVMe in RAID

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Topic: Boot X99 Extreme11 - Samsung 950 PCIe/NVMe in RAID
Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 2:27am

Hi,

I would like to know is the X99 Extreme11 motherboard able to the Boot Samsung 950 PRO 512GB PCIe/NVMe 3.0 M.2 in RAID ?

and if so are the settings for it almost the same as for the Z170 Extreme7+ ?

I seen a video on how to setup it up for the Z170 Extreme7+ but can't find one for the x99 Extreme11

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Edited by msvuze - 24 Nov 2015 at 4:39am

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Posted: 28 Nov 2015 at 12:08am

Hi,

I have the same question. Can someone help us?

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Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 4:00am

Hello everyone,
First of all sorry for my english...
The answer for your question, IMHO, can be found on the X99 Extreme11 RAID guide, which clearly states the following:
"Intel Rapid Storage Technology for PCIe Storage Use cases
Prerequisite:
* The PCIe Storage device must be attached to remapable PCIe slot or
PCIe M.2 connector.
* The PCIe Storage device must be AHCI-controller based. ..."
The Samsung 950 PRO products are based on Samsung's NVME proprietary controller, not an AHCI one. They are not seen, at least in my experience, under the Intel RST panel for RAID configuration.

Hope this will help.

Giacomo Pozzetti

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Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 2:14pm

The configuration settings for an X99 board would be identical to those for a Z170 board in the UEFI, for a RAID 0 array for PCIe SSDs.

The 1.20 UEFI has NVMe support added, so the warning in the RAID guide that only AHCI PCIe SSDs may be used in RAID may no longer be true. But there is more to it than that.

You will need to use the Intel IRST 14.5 or 14.6 driver, and the IRST Option ROM that is part of the UEFI will also need to be at least a 14.5 version.

If you have the Windows IRST 14.5 driver package installed, click on the Help link, and in the new Window click the System Report button. That will show the Option ROM version in your UEFI.

I can tell you from personal experience and that of others, that it is not worth using RAID 0 with PCIe SSDs, at least with the current Intel drivers. The increase in performance is not large, and the usual reduction of performance in RAID 0 with small files (4K) is seen with these SSDs, and becomes lower than using a single 950 Pro. For use as an OS drive, RAID 0 will perform slower in booting than a single 950 Pro.

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Posted: 25 Mar 2016 at 9:06am

Asrock support told me that the extreme11 does not support M.2 RAID 0 only the z170 boards with M.2 slots.

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msvuze Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote msvuze Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Boot X99 Extreme11 - Samsung 950 PCIe/NVMe in RAID Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 2:27am
	Hi, I would like to know is the X99 Extreme11 motherboard able to the Boot Samsung 950 PRO 512GB PCIe/NVMe 3.0 M.2 in RAID ? and if so are the settings for it almost the same as for the Z170 Extreme7+ ? I seen a video on how to setup it up for the Z170 Extreme7+ but can't find one for the x99 Extreme11 Thanks Edited by msvuze - 24 Nov 2015 at 4:39am

stivi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 28 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote stivi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 2015 at 12:08am
	Hi, I have the same question. Can someone help us? Thank you

gpozzet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Jan 2016 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote gpozzet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 4:00am
	Hello everyone, First of all sorry for my english... The answer for your question, IMHO, can be found on the X99 Extreme11 RAID guide, which clearly states the following: "Intel Rapid Storage Technology for PCIe Storage Use cases Prerequisite: * The PCIe Storage device must be attached to remapable PCIe slot or PCIe M.2 connector. * The PCIe Storage device must be AHCI-controller based. ..." The Samsung 950 PRO products are based on Samsung's NVME proprietary controller, not an AHCI one. They are not seen, at least in my experience, under the Intel RST panel for RAID configuration. Hope this will help.
	Giacomo Pozzetti

parsec Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996	Post Options Post Reply Quote parsec Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 2:14pm
	The configuration settings for an X99 board would be identical to those for a Z170 board in the UEFI, for a RAID 0 array for PCIe SSDs. The 1.20 UEFI has NVMe support added, so the warning in the RAID guide that only AHCI PCIe SSDs may be used in RAID may no longer be true. But there is more to it than that. You will need to use the Intel IRST 14.5 or 14.6 driver, and the IRST Option ROM that is part of the UEFI will also need to be at least a 14.5 version. If you have the Windows IRST 14.5 driver package installed, click on the Help link, and in the new Window click the System Report button. That will show the Option ROM version in your UEFI. I can tell you from personal experience and that of others, that it is not worth using RAID 0 with PCIe SSDs, at least with the current Intel drivers. The increase in performance is not large, and the usual reduction of performance in RAID 0 with small files (4K) is seen with these SSDs, and becomes lower than using a single 950 Pro. For use as an OS drive, RAID 0 will perform slower in booting than a single 950 Pro.


broken_pixel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Location: Nebulas Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote broken_pixel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2016 at 9:06am
	Asrock support told me that the extreme11 does not support M.2 RAID 0 only the z170 boards with M.2 slots.