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X870E and Windows 11 HDD spin down/up on reboot |
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Seems I have stumbled upon a nasty issue and my search only came up with one result from a MSI forum (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/x870e-carbon-wifi-hdds-spin-down-on-restarting-win11-at-boot-post-the-a2-error-code-displays-for-an-additional-10-seconds-per-sata-hdd.408995/) proof that this affects more than just Asrock motherboards.
I am opening this topic because it seems I am unable to find any other related topic on this issue. Either very few use HDDs these days or the blame for longer boot times is placed on something else instead of HDDs+motherboard/chipset combo. Here's my setup: Asrock X870E Taichi 3.20 firmware (latest) 1 NVMe SSD for the OS and boot 1 NVMe SSD for gam?”I mean work 4 Seagate Exos HDDs in a stripe configuration for backups and bulk data on SATA 1,2,3,4 When rebooting from Windows 11, I can hear the distinctive sound of the HDDs spinning down. During the BIOS POST or Windows startup, each HDD initializes one at a time, which drastically increases boot time. I've disabled all relevant settings I could find in the BIOS, but to no avail. The only change came from disabling a setting called "PCIe power management" or something?”this merely shifted the spin-up phase from Windows startup to the BIOS POST, with no other improvements. Interestingly, when I booted into a Linux live USB and then rebooted into Windows, there was no spin-down or spin-up behavior. Likewise, a cold boot presents no issues. Hotplug enabled or disabled for all SATA ports makes no difference. HDD sleep is disabled in Windows and I cannot hear the spin down or up while in Windows (in case the setting did not stick). Latest AMD Chipset drivers installed. I have to mention that on X570+5950X and the same HDDs, I did not have this issue. I've opened a ticket with ASRock, but haven?™t received even a confirmation email, let alone a response. So, does anyone else with one or more HDDs observe this behavior? |
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More info in a new reply because it seems I cannot edit the original one:
I have inserted my old Windows 10 SSD from X570 + 5950X days and the same issue. So it is not a problem with Windows 11 only. |
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M440 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2023 Status: Offline Points: 4205 |
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It's a Windows issue - it just assumes it knows better and sets ridiculous power management flags for devices. There are Wi-Fi cards that become unmanageable after Windows changes their settings you have to power down the PC and wait. It even happened to my MT7922.
It looks like Windows sends a signal to turn off the device entirely instead of putting it into standby. Who knows what its doing with HDD head parking and all that. I dont even want to know. Any BIOS fix a vendor provides is just a workaround. What other logical explanation could there be? I would recheck the power management features. As for Linux? I use hd-idle to configure per-device power management. Ive set a specific spindown time (standby mode - I could turn off the drive, but from what Ive read, thats not great for drive health), head parking time, and I can read the drive status directly using smartctl if I want, i wake it up and mount to the system only when i use it, i have scripts for that. Ive got one HDD thats about 12 years old, and Im not taking any risks with it.
Edited by M440 - 12 hours 26 minutes ago at 5:50pm |
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asrock b650m-hdv/m.2, ryzen 7700x@85watt, arch/kde
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Thank you for your reply.
It might be something to do with Windows, but please note that the exact same Windows 10 install (moved SSD) on a motherboard with X570 and 5950X does not present this issue. Also, got the info from another user who got the info from Asrock support on how to go around this issue for the moment: In BIOS, set the SATA to RAID instead of AHCI. This indeed fixes the spin-up/down but volumes made with Disk management are busted. Hopefully, a better fix will come. |
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