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    Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 2:44am
I noticed that saving some BIOS settings can cause a more forceful power "click" reset - I can hear a click - whereas other times there's no click.  I assume this is the power switching off and on vs. just the reset line being held low.

Sometimes, but not all the time, when I save a setting that triggers a "click" reset, all the settings in the BIOS are reset to their factory defaults.  This includes settings such as the Boot Manager - not just the overclock settings.

I've had this happen changing the SATA mode from "auto" to Gen1, but it also happens when changing the CPU offset voltage.  It seems fairly random - except that it's always associated with the "click" reset.  I've never had the BIOS get reset without the "click" reset.

I've saved the BIOS settings so I can restore them easily, but it isn't cool for it to be doing that, certainly.

Z370 Extreme4, BIOS 1.30

Is this a known issue?  Power supply is way above spec, it's an 850W, and I'm only running a 750 Ti graphics card.  This happens with OC settings that are rock solid in Prime95, so I don't think it's CPU instability.


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It's not an issue at all. Any time you alter voltages in any way the board will apply the new settings then power off completely and power back on with the altered voltages. If the settings are cleared then the values entered did not work (failed to post) and defaults were loaded. I assume the system takes longer to post when the settings are cleared?

If so then you need not worry, it's just your board doing it's job and preventing power surges/damage. Even if the settings are stable, sometimes a change elsewhere can render them unbootable, particularly if the overclock is pushing the edge of stability. 

I think you will find that if you experiment, you will see that the "click" reset happens any time any voltage setting is changed and defaults are only loaded after a longer than normal duration before POST. If the settings are good then the POST will happen as it normally does and the settings will be retained. 

I hope this helps.
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You obviously didn't bother reading my post.  I indicated that it was NOT limited to changes to overclocking params - that it happened when I changed the SATA to "Gen1" mode - and that I have a stable overclock .  Furthermore, it resets ALL BIOS params, including the Boot Manager settings, which have nothing to do with overclocking or recovery from a bad overclock.

I would bet money I can revert to a stock overclock, and reproduce the problem by again toggling something like SATA "Gen1" mode, but as I observed, it's somewhat random.
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Originally posted by BabyFarkMcGeeZax BabyFarkMcGeeZax wrote:

I would bet money I can revert to a stock overclock, and reproduce the problem by again toggling something like SATA "Gen1" mode, but as I observed, it's somewhat random.


If I could stand shoulder to shoulder to watch that I'd bet anything you have an unstable OC ...............


I've seen it here, and ONLY when doing suicide runs.

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As to changing SATA modes and it altering/reverting BOOT orders, yea. That would be expected.




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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:


If I could stand shoulder to shoulder to watch that I'd bet anything you have an unstable OC ...............


I've seen it here, and ONLY when doing suicide runs.

If you call passing 1 hour in Prime95 with AVX, 1 hour without AVX, and one hour under Aida64 "unstable," then it appears you and I have different definitions of "suicide run."  I noticed the problem very early on, before I did anything but upgrade the RAM settings to XMP, so it's likely I can reproduce it under stock clocking.

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:


As to changing SATA modes and it altering/reverting BOOT orders, yea. That would be expected.


That makes no sense.  You're saying that it's expected behavior that ALL BIOS SETTINGS (fan profiles, BootManager disabled/enabled, etc.) get wiped out when I change the SATA mode?  It doesn't even happen consistently, as I originally mentioned, so if it was intended behavior, then it's still buggy.

I guess I need to file a support request to get help with this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 1:46am
Originally posted by BabyFarkMcGeeZax BabyFarkMcGeeZax wrote:


Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:


As to changing SATA modes and it altering/reverting BOOT orders, yea. That would be expected.


That makes no sense.  You're saying that it's expected behavior that ALL BIOS SETTINGS (fan profiles, BootManager disabled/enabled, etc.) get wiped out when I change the SATA mode?  It doesn't even happen consistently, as I originally mentioned, so if it was intended behavior, then it's still buggy.

I guess I need to file a support request to get help with this.


That is not what I said and you know it. That was addressing SATA changes. Only.

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