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Topic: Z77 extreme 4 Security Certificate 2023Posted: 7 hours 39 minutes ago at 3:49pm |
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Well, you won't need a slot for Wifi or NVMe on a new board (provided you get one
with Wifi included). You also won't find a new board with old PCI slots unless you go for a workstation/server board. If you are using the system for office/photo work etc then I would recommend an intel platform. AMD has the crown right now for gaming but they run hotter and use more power under lower loads. For work use the intel platform should be perfect for you. Depending on your budget you can go for quite a few different options. Basically any board that has Wifi will do the trick nicely for you. Here is a good example: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B860%20Pro%20RS%20WiFi You probably won't need your USB 3.0 card as the board comes with a ton of USB ports, including USB C. It comes with Wifi so you won't need that either. The integrated graphics on a modern CPU will probably also perform well enough for your design work too so you could even potentially skip the HD 5800 GPU. The only issue you will have is your Firewire card, as I said before consumer boards no longer have old PCI slots. You may need to look for a PCIe Firewire card if that is essential to your workflow/hardware. You will be able to connect your NVMe drive directly to the motherboard as well as use it as a boot drive. As for CPU you can go for whatever fits your budget from the CPU support list: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B860%20Pro%20RS%20WiFi/index.asp#CPU Just avoid any CPU model that ends in an "F" if you plan to use the integrated graphics (which I would recommend as it comes with hardware encoding that could potentially speed up your video renders more than the HD 5800 series GPU). I wouldn't waste money on a Z890 board, for your needs the B860 chipset should be more than adequate and save you a bit of money. Basically any B860 board that comes with wifi paired with an intel "Core Ultra" CPU should be perfect for you. |
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hank you very much for your help.
Currently, on the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 motherboard, there are: 1 x PCI Express 2x1 slot for a 12-port USB 3.0 card 1 x PCI Express 2x1 slot for a Wi-Fi card 1 x PCI Express 3x16 slot for the graphics card 1 x PCI Express 3x16 slot for the NVMe M.2 card 1 PCI slot for a FireWire card 1 PCI slot that isn?�t in use I'm not a gamer, or very rarely one. It's mainly for office work, photo and video editing, the internet and some technical software (electrical engineering, design, etc.) My current motherboard has an old AMD Radeon HD 5800 series 16 GB RAM i7 3770 3.40 GHz processor, which doesn't work with Windows 11 Windows on a 500 GB Samsung Evo SSD I have also installed a PCI Express card on the motherboard, which houses a 1 GB NVMe M.2 drive, but only for storage as I can't boot from it. The BIOS do,'t want boot. I have not contacted Microsoft because I installed the Windows 10 Enterprise volume licence, as I wasn't able to register in September 2025 for Windows 10 updates. And I don't think I'm allowed to install this version, but if I hadnot installed it, I would not have Windows 10 anymore. And my PC woul not to upgrade to Windows 11. thanks well :) |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2026 at 3:39am |
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I would need a lot more info to make a recommendation. What platform, budget and
what will the system be used for? Do you need PCIe x16 slots or do you just mean 5 PCIe slots including the x1 slots? A board with 5 PCIe x16 (size not wired) will be expensive and if you are looking for 5 PCIe x16 slots that are wired as x16 then you will be looking at a lot more as well as a very expensive HEDT or server CPU. Because of NVMe M.2 slots most newer boards have 4 or less PCIe slots, typically 2 PCIe x16 size slots and 2 x1 slots. Here is an example of a newer board with 5 PCIe slots: https://pg.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690%20Phantom%20Gaming%204/index.asp You will be looking at higher end boards as the lower spec boards have fewer PCIe lanes to allocate. With the cost of RAM right now you may want to wait a while longer for prices to normalize. |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2026 at 12:42am |
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I?™ll need to think about upgrading my motherboard, processor and RAM, as the motherboard uses DDR3.
But which motherboard should I go for? I need several PCI Express slots ??at least four, not counting the graphics card. |
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Posted: 09 Jun 2026 at 5:55pm |
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Use their "Contact us" page:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/contactus#! |
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Posted: 09 Jun 2026 at 5:53pm |
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That is pretty much exactly what I would expect without a BIOS update to renew
the certificate. As for what to do about it, that depends entirely on if you use secure boot or not. If not, you don't need to do anything, your system will continue to function as it always has. This is the route I would take. Yes, it's less secure but I do most of my banking and other payments etc on my phone these days so I keep security on that tight. Aside from that, you can wait it out. I strongly suspect that there will be third party fixes and patches popping up as soon as this becomes an issue. Likely first on linux then branching out to other OSes. At the end of the day, no system is properly secure, all security implementations are flawed in some way. How secure is secure enough for you is a personal choice based on the value of the data on the system (banking login details etc). If you keep your important info on a different device then you don't really need security keys. That said, if you use your system for competitive games, some of these will require secure boot be enabled. |
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hello.
Asrock Support replied: Hello, have to say sorry. This mainboard is EoS (End of support) since many years. We are not able to provide a specific BIOS with newer Secure Boot keys. Anyway, as far we know, Microsoft will reales them by Windows updates as well. See or FAQ, Methode1: https://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?id=551 You might contact Microsoft as well if and when they plan it for WIN10 and your hardware. Method 2 is not available ??see abobve What should I do then? |
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Posted: 07 Jun 2026 at 2:32am |
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I am afraid you may be out of luck. All these security certificates, TPM 2.0 etc
are designed specifically to make older hardware obsolete. Microsoft in particular has been pushing this issue. You can try opening a support ticket with ASRock and asking them directly: https://tw.asrock.com/events/tsd.asp?kind=MB Unfortunately I suspect they won't be able to help you. You should still be able to use the system with Windows 10 however your security will be compromised. How important that is and how compromised I don't know. I have long ago migrated all my older systems to Linux. Good luck and I am sorry I can't give you the answer you were hoping for. |
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