x470 Taichi + Ryzen 5000 CPU's
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Topic: x470 Taichi + Ryzen 5000 CPU's
Posted By: T1125P
Subject: x470 Taichi + Ryzen 5000 CPU's
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 7:56am
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Hey all, does anyone here have any of the new Ryzen 5000 series CPUs with the x470 Taichi board with the latest 4.60 BIOS? And if so how is it running? Were there any issues? I'm just asking because as soon as I find a 5900x in stock I will buy it and replace my 3700x. I already got real lucky and managed to buy a EVGA 3070 XC3 Ultra, just last week, thank's to EVGA's auto notify :D Thanks ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
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Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 11:24pm
Only thing I've ran into with AGESA's above 1.0.0.8 .. is not being able to run my RAM above XMP profile .. that's on 2 different x570 ASRock motherboard's .. the Taichi and Steel Legend. Other than that, you should see a healthy improvement in overall system performance  ------------- |Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15| |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 6:11am
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Ah, I see, hmmm I'm running 32GB in a 4x8 at 3200 CL14 with no issues with XMP but I'm not looking to go higher . Still not sure yet as I have a x470 and you have 2 x570 boards. I guess we should wait. I just saw on Gamers Nexus AMD should be releasing new AGESA code. "AMD AGESA 1.1.9.0 BIOS Update" All I want is a smooth experience with no issues :D I don't overclock and leave the RAM with XMP as it is. But thanks for your feedback with your x570 boards. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 11:24am
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then your golden ------------- |Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15| |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 1:32pm
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Thanks :D Now the issue is finding a 5900x at retail price lol ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 3:14pm
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I went from x570 Taichi with 3900x with RAM at 3600Mhz c15 to 5950x on same motherboard and it now refuses to even give me any meaningful Dr Debug code with 3600Mhz any timing. 3533Mhz is stable, yet higher timings than with previous set up. So I believe the latest BIOSes are not up to scratch in regards to memory compatibility, and I really believe you would struggle with 4x8Gb. However as mentioned above new Agesa is coming. Not sure when will it show up for Asrock motherboards :) ------------- folding@home |
Posted By: KungFuSpaghetti
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 11:06pm
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I'm running a 5800x on my x470 Taichi and not had one single issue so far. XMP works for 3600 CL14 with Team Group Xtreme 8pack memory and already been messing with PBO2, which again, this is the first time PBO has actually given me a performance boost and not a deficit with a ton of added pointless heat and volts. If anyone is interested, I'm using a negative value of 15 all core in curve optimiser and +150mhz allowance. I've not really tried to push anymore, as each core on this 5800x hits 5ghz. I'll be reducing PPT and EDC next to see if it has a positive impact on temps without loss of performance, as I ran my 3900x at a fixed voltage of 1.28v which kept temps low and performance was at it's best (7700+ in cinebench R20). As for BIOS, I updated to BIOS 4.60 about 2 weeks ago as it's the only BIOS that's been stable for RAM OC since 3.90, but I'll wait for further BIOS revisions before I bother going for 3800 CL14 or better, as apparently there's a small chance of 4000mhz RAM (seen no evidence of anyone achieving this yet however). BIOS 4.10 and 4.20 I found were garbage for memory support too, not sure if anyone else found the same... but then most BIOS releases from ASRock are utter garbage I've found. It's a shame, the hardware is pretty much unmatched especially at the price point, but I've had this motherboard since my 2700x and it took forever to bring a bios with stable RAM overclocking... fortunately I've never had an issue with XMP settings with b-die memory though. |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 7:08am
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Hmm, being the x470 Taichi is a T-topology board not a daisy chain board with regards to how RAM should be installed. This board likes all slots filled up vs only 2. I think the ram should be ok :D @KungFuSpaghetti that's great I see it works with no issues your 5800x on the x470, and you have it a 3600 with CL14, tight timmings for 3600mhz with all 4 slots filled. I'm still running 3.60 as I see no reason to upgrade yet, until I have my 5900x in my hands. I heard that as well 4.10 & 4.20 were trash not worth it to upgrade to those versions. I'm not sure we will be able to hit 4000mhz ram even with the next bios update, that would be awesome if it did. But I'm not buying more ram again lol. I bought 16GB 2 yrs and just this year added the same exact 16GB for 32GB in all 4 slots. I have the B-Die G.SKILL Flare X ram. Oh one more thing, I saw on Hardware Unboxed. If you run all 4 slots you get a slight performance boost, though I don't see it lol. I think yours and my ram are single ranked. So running all 4 slots makes it run dual channel but now dual ranked. I think this is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGux0pANft0 ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 10:06am
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Oh one more thing I forgot to ask, with bios 4.60 did AsRock include that new Resizable BAR in the bios settings with the x470 boards? ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 3:15pm
Performance boosts are artificial. 5000 series on its own is unbelievably fast CPUs.The performance increase is there but its not high enough for you to register it ------------- folding@home |
T1125P wrote:Posted By: juanin3
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 8:24pm
| the option is on the 4.60 bios version. |
Posted By: juanin3
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 8:26pm
I have on my x470 taichi a ryzen 7 5800x running without issues, with a teamgroup drams 3200c14 overclocked to 3600c14 and PBO2 enabled. |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2021 at 1:56pm
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Oh that's great it's running perfect with a 5800x on 4.60. I also have 3200 CL14 32GB in a 8x4, are you running 2 slots or all 4 slots? Seems solid then, that's great I'm going to upgrade to AGESA 1.2.0.0 once AsRock get's the new BIOS which will probably be in Feb. maybe by then I will have my 5900x :D ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: juanin3
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2021 at 5:44pm
I'm running 2x8 and its fine. I only have a concern, my x470 taichi doesn´t read power consum of my 5800x and wrong read of +12v rail, but I don´t know if its only my concern or generall, but performance is good. |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2021 at 3:49am
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Ah, 8x2, I should have no issue I'm thinking these boards are t-topology and have no issues with all ram slots filled up. About that power consum. what is it showing if your using hwinfo? Mine has a +12.250v https://ibb.co/9vSy8Pv My guess it could also be the new bios 4.60. I'm going to also guess it should be corrected with the new bios that has the new AGESA 1.2.0.0 come Feb. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: KungFuSpaghetti
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2021 at 6:39pm
sadly not, it's there but greyed out. |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 10:58am
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Ah, it's grayed out. Thanks for the update, heres hoping they change that with the next bios update, which should contain the new AGESA 1.2.0.0. It looks like it will be an improvement in games with it on. Nvidia is also releasing their own resizable BAR. Right now it looks like it benefits AMD GPUs. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/resizable-bar-intel-z490-motherboard-benchmarks I have a 3070 so I want to see what Nvidia does :D ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 11:28pm
| Hey. 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 running at 3600 cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) and no issue with 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.60, 'game mode' pbo enabled via ryzen master. Timespy cpu score 12072 so I'm pretty happy (at last!). p.s. I've not seen the option for resizeable BAR yet; also I think Nvidia have to release the driver for Ampere to take advantage (3080 here) |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 4:37am
Hey thanks a lot for your feedback results, gives me more peace of mind now :D I can finally order, well when I do find a 5900x at retail price LMAO. I see your build is rock solid with your 5800x, 4.60 and 32GB 3200 CL14 and you have it clocked to 3600 CL14 that's really good. Is it a 8x4 (all ram slots filled) or a 16x2 config? I have all my slots filled 8x4 3200 CL14 and just going to keep it that way with my CPU upgrade. Nice timespy score to :D. The BAR is up to nvidia right now, your right we just have to wait. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 5:12am
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16x2 for me on the Dominator Platinums. Very impressed so far but you pay for it. Unless you need the extra cores for workloads, just get the 5800x. It clocks hard, mine are regularly at 4850mhz and have spiked higher but I have a 360mm water loop on the go :) ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 7:23am
Ah ok 16x2, I'll take my chance with my 8x4 :D But this board is a T-Topology board so it likes 8x4 with no issues, we shall see. I don't really need the extra cores but I want them just incase I need them lol. 4850mhz is a nice boost, using water to keep it cool, me I have the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B so it will work on a 105w cpu as well ^_^ ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 4:50pm
@t1125p Note I had a stability issue when I pushed the system hard with Cyberpunk for whatever reason. I believe it to be SOC voltage related based on previous experience and once I'd created a 0.05 offset against VDDCR_SOC everything seems stable once again  ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 5:32am
You mean you overclocked your CPU when you ran Cyberpunk? If so how is it when it runs stock? Oh and the temps you get while idle and gaming? I keep reading that Zen 3 CPUs get much hotter than the previous generation, up to 90c under load which going by a post by Robert Hallock to a reponse to a reddit user, he says 90-95c under load is fine, but for me it's not LOL.  ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 3:19pm
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My 5950x was much cooler than 3900x. Both at stock. I released the kraken aka PBO on 5950x, and it still is 10C cooler than 3900x without PBO. I'm starting to suspect, that majority of 5000 series users get careless with power limit in BIOS. ------------- folding@home |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 1:42pm
Your 5950x is on a x470 Taichi? I also have a auto notify email for the 5950x as well as a 5900x wherever they have it B&H, Bestbuy etc. lol. That's great it's running cooler than the previous generation, I guess the BIOS is much better for the 5000 series CPUs it seems. I was looking into the 5800x they are actually up to buy at Bestbuy and B&H but I keep reading they run very hot so I'll go for the higher end CPUs ?? ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 2:54pm
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No, I'm using x570 Taichi ;) ------------- folding@home |
Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 2:59pm
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I don't think BIOS is better, I believe it's fabrication process refinement in play. Also, a lot of people run away with insane PBO settings. I have seen so many sites recommend 9999 as a limit to all power settings in PBO section. So if you set limitless "limitations" and CPU has 95C thermal limit, it is logical to assume that CPU will be boosting till it bounces back from 95C limit. These type of temps are kinda bad for surrounding motherboard components whatever everyone says. So if you want your 5000 series to behave, chill with PBO settings ;) ------------- folding@home |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 6:09pm
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@t1125p sorry for slow reply (work). no I didn't mean overclocking but I used to run a 3600xt and some g.skill ram before these new ones so commented here prematurely. did some more testing last night and what's becoming apparently is that if I strip it down to 'auto' basics, the bit causing the instability was excessive LLC (lvl2) settings. I'm trialing a bit more tonight but if I don't post again that was probably it. As another poster said here, I don't think it's worth pushing too much into these they already clock so hard with the new algorithms. I think instead I'll see how far my memory can go with a matched Infinity Fabric ratio. To comment on temps, I have a 360mm medium thickness single loop radiator with a 3080 in the same loop. Worst temps I ever saw even with the excessive LLC was 84centigrade. Now I've gone back down to auto basics I'm looking at 74 last night with all cores reaching 4850mhz regularly ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2021 at 6:39am
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I have PBO off in my BIOS, and just let the CPU boost on it's own. It can still run hot but those are just spikes not sustained temps. It can hit 80c sometimes gaming, again just a spike it's usually much lower sustainted. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2021 at 6:44am
That's ok. I see hmm, I'm just going to run my ram aS I do now. My XMP settings are 3200 CL14 in a 8x4 32GB. Not going to overclock it, when I buy my 5900x I'll just drop it in and fix my settings as how I had them with my 3700x. I have a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B with 2 Noctua 120mm fans on them. The 3700x can reach up to 80-81c but those are just spikes, usually it's much lower sustained temps while gaming in the 60s-70s. Now still looking for a 5900x the 5800x is easy to find though. I will pay up to $75 over MSRP :D Thats' the highest I'll go. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 05 May 2021 at 4:30am
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Ok I waited long enough, cannot find a 5900x to anywhere near MSRP I would pay up to $50 over retail but no luck. So I bought the next best thing, the 5800x ??. The upgrade went smoothly. Flashed to bios 4.70, even have resizable bar to. Temps seem good or a bit better than my older 3700x, idle now in the lower 30s up to max in games so far 74-75c. This time I put one pea size dot in the middle and smaller half pea size dots on all 4 corners. XMP 3200 CL14 no issues with all 4 slots of 32GB RAM. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 05 May 2021 at 3:54pm
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cool, yeah I thought that was the better option anyway. There are scenarios where the 5800x does better e.g. for high clocks, single threaded because there is less heat being applied per core (less voltage) in the same surface area. I also get resizable BAR enabled ok, same speed ram too but have overclocked that up a bit and kept 1:1 ratio with IF clock. Enjoy the increased IPC, frequency and get water cooling eventually! ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 06 May 2021 at 3:00am
Yup, also being only 1 CCD helps to. Just one 8 core 16 thread die. A bit easier to cool I think as well. I'm not going enable the resize bar yet, don't see it as any benefit really maybe a few % in some games but all of those games listed I don't play lol. I'm sure in the future there will be more added. I have PBO off and nothing O/C. Your RAM is O/C to what speeds? I'm wondering now if I can boost it up to 3600 @ CL14. I used to have water cooling on my older 3770k but now I went with air, easier to maintain :) ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 06 May 2021 at 4:28am
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I've not heard of putting paste on the edges. just a line in middle or pea in middle. if you're not overclocking manually and pbo disabled then you should be getting low temps. defo start putting a negative offset voltage on the core, defaults seem way too high. Memory 3466 so far at cl14; I will do 3600 next and I've read people getting that with the xmp timing, wow. ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 06 May 2021 at 6:16am
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I have the Noctua NT-H2 paste and I went by this video. First time I did it this way, I usually just do a pea size dot but so far this seems pretty good to. I tried to link the video of the paste appliaction but for some reason othe link says not found. Just look for: Noctua NT-H2: How to apply on medium-sized CPUs Skip to 0:58. My vcore using HWiNFO has a max when stressed, gaming, benchmark, etc was 1.494. Going by what AMD has stated up to 1.500 is fine and normal. :) 3466 CL14 is pretty good. I have Flare X samsung bdie so it might be able to go higher. I was looking at some benchmarks, 3200 cl14 vs 3600 cl16 and there is not to much of a difference. Maybe in some games 3%. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 06 May 2021 at 6:38am
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seriously, you cannot cause harm from undervolting. even try start with -0.025 or -0.05 if nervous but mine is drawing about 1.38 peak from memory, no crashes yet. yeah with cl14 timings and a 1:1 IC match, it's a strong start. once all other stuff stable you can play with a little more OC. add that to re-BAR...it all adds up ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 07 May 2021 at 1:40am
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two quick thoughts from myself 1) thermal paste a 3800/5800 etc has one hot spot the top right 1/4 of heatsink this is where the actual cores sit (eg just above the letter N of ryzen printed on the heatsink ) a bead in the middle is actually just covering the I/O chip hence noctua advice for the 4 corners to make sure you cover the actual cpu cores 2) ram speeds with b die ..3600 easy at cl16 even with the older 3xxx series and then you have the advantages across the board games and productivity of the higher 1800mhz infinity bus (to be fair with a 5xxx chip you should be aiming/trying for 3800mhz ram and 1800 infinity clock, if you can tweak it that high, it does depend on your luck with the b dies and the memory controller of the 5xxx cpu ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: marcin2468
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 1:33am
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Does anybody can help to set proper voltage, frequency and PBO for 5800X on X470 Taichi Ultimate? I installed it today and board sets very high voltages which causes high temperatures. |
Posted By: lyntonb
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 1:38am
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Hi I'm running PBO with x470 taichi which will be the same as ultimate I think. I'm running a fixed vcore of 1.325 I think. Auto does look high but those are only spikes it doesn't run those voltages constantly. PBO allows it to spike to keep threads high here and there and give you overall best-as-possible performance for the cooling conditions available ------------- 32gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz cl14 OC>3466mhz cl14 (xmp timings incredibly) 5800x, x470 taichi, bios 4.70, resizable BAR enabled, pbo enabled -0.1V offset |
Posted By: marcin2468
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 2:11am
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X470 taichi and taichi ultimate have same VRM. Can You make some screen how you set voltages, PBO and LLC? Maybe I mounted wrong my air cooler or it`s insufficient? When I try to make test with prime95 it get 90 celsius but in OCCT runs cooler and get spikes to 80 celsius. |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 6:07am
Hi, actually 90c in prime95 is perfectly fine, this is by AMD's design. Even when I'm gaming I have a few spikes to 80-83 sometimes but my idle temps are between 34-37. This is coming from AMD's Robert Hallock. Check out this article: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/" rel="nofollow - https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/ ""Yes. I want to be clear with everyone that AMD views temps up to 90C (5800X/5900X/5950X) and 95C (5600X) as typical and by design for full load conditions. Having a higher maximum temperature supported by the silicon and firmware allows the CPU to pursue higher and longer boost performance before the algorithm pulls back for thermal reasons," Hallock said." ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 6:09am
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Does anyone here have the same board as me with the same bios 4.70 and they also have resizeable bar enabled, and if so are there any issues with games? Just asking because 4.70 was taken down and it's still not back up. ------------- x470 Taichi v5.10 5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B) G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14 970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB PNY RTX 4070 Super SoundBlaster AE-7 EVGA 850W Platinum LG WH16NS40 AOC Q24G2A |
Posted By: marcin2468
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 2:08pm
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Before 5800x I had 2700 (non X) so I was very surprised seeing this temperatures. I already started to search AIO 360mm but maybe for now I will stay with my air cooler. Thanks for reply. |
Posted By: Ironbuket
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2021 at 7:49pm
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I can confirm that my: X470 Taichi (non-ultimate) with 2700x and 16GB (2x8) Team Group 8-Pack Dark Pro Worked overclocked OK on a much older BIOS, but when I put 4.70 on there, in advance of changing out the CPU, I couldn?™t get anything above 2400. Neither XMP or manually overclocking the ram would stick. I tried for a few hours out of interest without success. No matter what I did, the system just restarts until it gives up and resets back to 2400 before booting. I then installed a 5800x and the XMP profile worked immediately when selected without any issues at all. Wow this CPU is fast compared to the 2700x, very happy with the upgrade |
Posted By: portamimlu
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 8:48am
| Hello, I am looking to purchase the 5950x for my x470 taichi ultimate. Are you having success with the mobo and cpu combination? Is the 4.70 bios still working for you? |
Posted By: portamimlu
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 8:53am
| Also, do you have to incrementally update your bios? or can you directly go to 4.70. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 3:00pm
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Unless the instructions on your product page explicitly mention updating to a bridge BIOS first you can just update directly to the latest one. In your case: 1. Support new Athlon 2xxGE series APU. 2. Update AMD AGESA to 0.0.7.2 * Please install "AMD all in 1 with VGA driver ver:18.50.16.01_WHQL" or a later version before updating to this BIOS. ** If you updated the BIOS before updating the AMD all in one driver, please refer to the Display recovery SOP to recover your system. *** If the current BIOS version is older than P2.00, please update BIOS to P2.00(PinnaclePI-AM4_1.0.0.6) before updating this version. **** User will not able to flash previous BIOS once upgrading to this BIOS version. So if your BIOS version is pre 2.00 then you will have to update to 2.00 first, reboot, clear CMOS, reboot again then update to the version you are aiming for. If your BIOS is newer than 2.00 then you should be able to just update to 4.70. I always recommend clearing CMOS or restoring factory defaults from within the UEFI and rebooting before updating to a new BIOS version. It helps prevent bad flashes/corruption. ------------- 
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Posted By: John29
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2022 at 7:09pm
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Asrock betaBios For all Asrock boards may help. New BetaBIOS for AMD X470 Taichi Motherboards X470 Taichi - BetaBIOS L4.86 1. Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch C 2. Enable AMD CPU fTPM in BIOS default 3. Apply DRAM auto rule X470 Taichi Ultimate - BetaBIOS L4.88 X470 Taichi - BetaBIOS L4.88 1st update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.6b I have be on L4.86 and L4.88 they are both good ASROCK X470 Taichi BetaBIOS L4.88 Ryzen 5800X Noctua NH-U12A MSI 5700 Gamming X Flash to 5700XT Samsung 970 Pro M.2 Samsung 860 EVO M.2 TeamGroup Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 2X16 32GB PC4-25600C16 3600 Seasonic 750 Platinuim |
Posted By: LestorGL
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 10:27pm
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Hello everyone! I want to install Ryzen 5 5600X in X470 Taichi. What version of Bios do you recommend for this: 4.60 or 4.70? |
Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2022 at 4:54pm
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bcos most of the x370 taichi users come here = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-506" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-506 opppssss sorry ASRock !!! ------------- x370taichi@3.50gen4 AX750 Optane900P SN770 3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28 XFX SWFT319 6900XT MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2022 at 5:52pm
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99% of the time that is all you need to do but that is not a full CMOS clear. When you have an RTC problem and a few other rare issues a more drastic clear is needed. Someone will always think they know better. The only time I suggest pulling the battery and disconnecting power etc is when a standard clear didn't help. If you look through the threads here you will see that the more comprehensive clear has done the trick for a lot of people. Clearing CMOS as described in my sticky thread won't hurt anything and is a way to ensure there are no gremlins that didn't clear with the quick method. Also, bare in mind that the people who post here have tech skill levels ranging from abysmal to expert. The method I recommend ensures that there is a very high chance they cleared CMOS even if they missed a step or accidentally shorted the wrong pins etc. We help anyone regardless of skill level and understanding. -------------
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