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Topic: x399 Taichi with TR wont install Server 2016
Posted By: kwagenknight
Subject: x399 Taichi with TR wont install Server 2016
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 10:46pm
" rel="nofollow - I can install Windows Server 2012r2 but when I try to install 2016 as either fresh off USB or as an upgrade on top of 2012 r2 it freezes at Windows load logo!

Anyone know why?



Replies:
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 10:56pm
" rel="nofollow - kwagenknight, I do not think I have an answer for you, but how is your install disk formatted?  If it is not GPT, please change it to GPT and try again.  I would suggest you format all disks in your system as GPT.  Please provide more system HW details, such as memory, etc.  Enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: kwagenknight
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 11:20pm
Thanks for the reply!

So I have the Taichi x399 running an AMD Threadripper 1950X liquid cooled, 32GB (4x8gb) GSkill 3200 RAM. Im using 3 Samsung 960PRO M.2 NVMe drives. I can and have easily installed Server 2012r2 after the initial install failure of Server 2016. Once I had 2012r2 installed I then attempted to install Server 2016 and it got to the reboot stage of the install of 2016 then upon boot to complete 2016 install it froze at the same spot as the attempt from the USB fresh install where the Windows logo appears and then it should have the loading circle animation and that animation never appears and it sits not doing anything. When I restarted after that freeze it booted back to Server 2012r2 and told me it failed to install and said "The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation"
I believe that is a BIOS or board issue preventing the install.

As a test I actually installed it on my desktop running a Ryzen 7 1700X setup and it installed fine.

I had also tried the GPT vs MBR and a few other options available in Rufus with no success, and like I mentioned the same USB install worked on my other machine.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 11:38pm
" rel="nofollow - Thanks, kwagenknight, but please provide more details including exact memory model (qualified?) and BIOS version.  Make sure you are running the latest BIOS (1.30) and use the Install Flash (BIOS) not the Windows method.  Ryzen has shown many problems with memory.  When you have Windows up, does all 32 GB of memory show in the Task Manager/Performance?  If all else fails remove all but one memory stick and see if you can install.  Google gets lots of hits on "The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation", some with solutions.  Please take a look and see if any apply to your situation.  Good luck and enjoy, John.

EDIT: Things to look at and/or try:
When booted back into 2012, see if you can find a https://static.spiceworks.com/attachments/post/0016/8465/setuperr.log" rel="nofollow - setuperr.log file concerning the 2016 installation.
Boot to BIOS and "Load UEFI defaults", F9, then Save and Exit.
I assume you are booting the USB stick in UEFI mode when using GPT disk?


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 11:42am
I have the same problem with the X399 Gaming Pro. I can get WIndows 10, Server 2012R2 installed and booting but not server 2016. using latest 1.3 bios, removed all the memory sticks, tried again one by one, no issues with the memory just with booting off usb media. used rufus, used the windows 7 usb boot tool, fat32 boot partition with ntfs fs, fat32 partition with the files split over 2 partitions. nada.

The ram I am using is CMK64GX4M8A2400C14 ver:5.30, bios is lates installed via flash and not windows.


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 12:08am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by tombmedia tombmedia wrote:

I have the same problem with the X399 Gaming Pro. I can get WIndows 10, Server 2012R2 installed and booting but not server 2016. using latest 1.3 bios, removed all the memory sticks, tried again one by one, no issues with the memory just with booting off usb media. used rufus, used the windows 7 usb boot tool, fat32 boot partition with ntfs fs, fat32 partition with the files split over 2 partitions. nada.

The ram I am using is CMK64GX4M8A2400C14 ver:5.30, bios is lates installed via flash and not windows.


What is the install stating/showing. and where during the install?





Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 1:33am
I get an initial boot off the thumbdrive, then a grey screen with the "Loading Files" message and a white progressbar which loads twice and then flips to either a windows logo or the asrock logo (depending on my approach) and from there  it just hangs. I no longer see any drive activity nor does it read anymore from the usb drive. I've left it for days and no activity.
 
Other weird thing is in that state I can hit the power button and it just turns right off, so it doesn't look like the setup os is loading at all.
 
MB post codes are off at this point as it has booted something but not enough to continue.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 3:31am
" rel="nofollow - tombmedia, so you are not getting "The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation" error that kwagenknight is getting?  Please tell us the details of your setup.  Please open the BIOS and hit F9 to Load UEFI Defaults.  How did you create your install USB?  Have you tried booting and installing from it on another system?  Can you burn a DVD and try that?  Are you using USB-2 or 3 port?  Maybe there are not any USB-2 ports on TR.  Where did you get the Server 2016 install code?  Did you modify it at all?  Please tell us as much as you can.  Good luck and enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 4:40am
No, he didn't get that error until he installed 2012r2 and tried to upgrade to 2016. I haven't tried to upgrade yet.

X399 Gaming Pro
1950X Threadripper
MSI RX 550
Corsair RM850i
256GB Samsung 850 Pro
64GB Corsair LPX Ram - kit # listed above.

I am using various methods to create the usb drive. Rufus, Windows 7 USB backup tool, manually copying over the bootsector.

The same usb drive that fails works fine on a MSI X370 Titanium with a Ryzen 1700, same ram same drive same usb key and it installs 2016 without issue. I have an asrock X370 Gaming Pro I could try on but I have a feeling it will work on that board too.

Software comes directly from my MSDN account, not a flakey copy. No usb2 on the board at all, not even a header. The iso is 5.7gb and I don't have any dual layer dvd burners

I even went so far as to install server 2016 on the x370 machine and move the hdd to the x399 box but no avail it won't boot off the drive if I do. Something about the 2016 boot that this board does not like.

Note I tested the ram for days, I tested the drive, I bought a brand new usb key (2 actually at this point) I made sure to reset the bios after my first set of issues and have been trying since on the default settings. Now that I'm back to 2012r2 I have everything setup again in the bios and it works great, I really don't think there is anything wrong with the board or the components within. This is something to do with the UEFI and server 2016. When I build this system as windows 10 it is rock solid.


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 7:30am
" rel="nofollow - tm, do this for me and reply back please.

Place the USB media in one of the two USB ports under the Multi Purpose PS/2 Port and retry.


Oh!!!!!!!!!

what ver of Server 2016? Maked sure you have the correct license. I know 2016 Essentials is Processor based, but check that you aren't butting heads with a Per Core license/version of 2016





Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 8:12am
tombmedia, AMD has just released new BIOS code which contains a new AGESA and new microcode.  Please install this latest version from ASRock DLs.  After update boot back into the BIOS and hit F9 to Load UEFI Defaults.  Please let us know if it helps - sure hope so!  Enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 8:15am
I don't see that bios update yet

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X399%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS" rel="nofollow - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X399%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 9:19am
" rel="nofollow - Sorry, tombmedia.  I forgot you had a Threadripper.  I did see that the new BIOS was not released yet for X399.  Is there any chance you can try a before/after (Bios update) test on your X370 machine?
I place my system specifications in my signature to help readers.
Sorry again and enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 10:28am
" rel="nofollow - Sorry about that. I'll update when I get a chance.

I don't seem to be able to retrieve the original bios, 1.10 I think it was. It's not listed anywhere that I can see. Again I'm not having any problems with the x370 rig, that one the usb key can install the os successfully, but regardless if I put that thumb drive or the os drive into the x399 rig it will not boot off that drive either.

Wardog, I tried those ports and got the same behavior. Hangs at the logo after loading files.

Also tried to upgrade from 2012r2 and got the exact same error "The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation" do I need to have tpm enabled I see a setting for fTPM but its disabled by default?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 12:53pm
" rel="nofollow - TM, please list out drive config while installing 2016.

Is this an array you're installing to? Maybe previously Encrypted or BIOS Drive Password protected drive(s) by chance?

If it isn't one of the above, use the F6 driver routine using the unpacked SATA Floppy Image download from the 10 x64 drivers d/l page of your MB.


I dunno, but it sure sounds like it's choking on a pre-boot issue and I'm thinking as it's only after 2016 try's running itself from the installed to drive that a controller driver is missing. Make sense to you?









Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 1:00pm
TM, sorry man. I'm waiting on ASRock to send me a TR to help out Users here with.

Being unpaid here it's supposed to be the perk/balancing factor for us Moderators spending the time here we do.

I too have MSDN yet w/o a TR board and proc I'm going by past experiences with Server with helping you.

We'll get there though. I'm thinking you F6 pre-loading the SATA drivers is the solve. Geek





Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 11:27pm
tombmedia, I'm asking that you try installing 2016 on your X370 with current BIOS, and if it fails as in the TR, then update the BIOS to AGESA 1.0.0.6b and see if it works.  Sorry for the miscommunication.  Please tell us what X370 MB model you have.  Thanks and enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 1:32am
Hi John, good idea, I have a x370 gaming professional, and it was sitting at v2.40 (1.0.0.6) and it was able to boot to the second partition successfully and started loading the proper install.

I then flashed to v3.10 (1.0.0.6b) and again it worked.

See this is a full UEFI install and because of that there are 2 partitions created when you use rufus. Partition 1 is fat32 and allows the boot, then it "loads" the secondary partition which is ntfs and has the large (+4gb) install files.

When I go into the bios I get three options to boot off the usb:
- UEFI: Partition 1
- UEFI: Partition 2
- USB: Something something (sorry can't remember)

These ASRock bios's are nice I can force a boot off any drive on the last screen so with the TR if I force boot option 1 I get loading screen and then it goes to asrock logo and hangs. If I select option 2 it goes through the same loading screen and it then goes to a windows logo and hangs and if I select usb (option 3) it goes to the black "Error loading operating system" error I get when I try to do this off a MBR usb key (trust me short of putting my pecker in this thing I've tried everything)

in the x370 on both bios versions I can easily boot off uefi partition 1 and it goes through the loading screen, then flashes back to the asrock logo and this time I get the spinning dots that signifies server 2016 (or windows 10) is loading successfully.

Wardog, I don't even need to have drives plugged in to run this test. It will still boot to the windows installer and after I enter my key it tells me no drives detected. This is where I would enter the storage drivers and I can't even get this far on the x399 rig.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 2:29am
Thanks much, tombmedia, for the great work!  This at least eliminates Ryzen.  I have one more install for you to try.  I have done all my installs on VM or HW using a Flat (disk drive) for some time.  I will help as you need but since you may well know how, I won't bore you with the details.  Basically I DL the W10 ISO and place the extracted files into a folder on my INSTALL disk.  I also have a .xml file with install information (unattended answer file) but it is not  required.  I boot a USB stick in UEFI containing Win64PE.  I then use diskpart to find my INSTALL partition, point to it and start setup.exe.  All is pretty much normal after that except it is very fast!  My INSTALL partition is on a Samsung 960 EVO SSD.  Please let me know if you want to try this and let me know if I can help in any way.  Apparently TR does not handle the two step install USB well.  This will avoid this and no need to worry about exceeding FAT limit.  I started to ask you about the Server 2016 size for this reason.  Thanks again for your help.  Enjoy, John.

EDIT: Since the X370 is a http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp%3cbm=65&BEFID=96425&aon=%5E1&MerchantID=300086&crawler_id=811181&dealId=yjFA8mAAsq6YI_ugq8cGhA%3D%3D&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclickserve.dartsearch.net%2Flink%2Fclick%3Flid%3D92700014999069387%26ds_s_kwgid%3D58700001245061795%26ds_s_inventory_feed_id%3D97700000001002320%26ds_e_product_id%3D74032624%26ci_customer_id%3D1001227%26ci_cse_id%3D1004%26ci_feed_id%3D1004921%26ds_e_product_merchant_id%3D6382239%26ds_e_product_country%3DUS%26ds_e_product_language%3Den%26ds_e_product_channel%3Donline%26ds_url_v%3D2%26ds_dest_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.kohls.com%2Fproduct%2Fprd-2820706%2Fgirls-4-12-ty-beanie-boos-pinky-zoey-waddles-pajama-set.jsp%253Fci_mcc%253Dci%2526utm_campaign%253DGIRL%2527S%252520SLEEPWEAR%2526utm_medium%253DCSE%2526utm_source%253Dshopping%2526CID%253Dshopping17%26sdc_id%3D%7Bsdc_id%7D&linkin_id=8058742&Issdt=170903141237&searchID=p11.e89df2603d1b8f7515a0&DealName=Girls+4-12+TY+Beanie+Boos+Pinky%2C+Zoey+%26+Waddles+Pajama+Set%2C+Size%3A+4-5%2C+White&dlprc=18.99&AR=4&NG=2&NDP=5&PN=1&ST=7&FPT=DSP&NDS=&NMS=&MRS=&PD=&brnId=14305&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&op=&CM=&RR=4&IsLps=0&code=&acode=67&category=&HasLink=&ND=&MN=&GR=&lnkId=&SKU=74032624" rel="nofollow - Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming perhaps the problem is a Taichi BIOS problem. 


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 10:11am
Both of my asrock ryzen boards are the Fatal1ty ones, the x399 and the x370 :)

The OP was on a x399 taichi.


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:14am
" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]Hey guys I have a bigger problem, while I can install 2012r2 as soon as I enable hyper-v it refuses to boot to the os. I get some error but it's gone so fast I can't tell you what it is. Nothing in the event log. I can boot again if I disable SVM.

Kinda like this old post: http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=118914

This was all working on an MSI x370 titanium using the same hardware (except the processor and board) as I did some tests with different drives, etc to try and setup a good ryzen smb server.

There is an MSI TR4 board at the computer store here in town I will go grab that and see if that has issues with svm and server 2012/2016.

If it does then this may be a TR issue, if it doesn't then this is a problem with asrock's x399 implementation.

Just to make sure it wasn't a ryzen/asrock issue altogether I enabled hyper-v in the x370 gaming pro rig and it booted up fine. I also tried disabling SMT in the x399 rig as I heard some hypervisors have issues with it enabled but that didn't fix it either, the only thing that got me to boot again was disabling the SVM,


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:34am
Ugh. I was able to install windows 10 on the x399 machine and was able to successfully install the hyper-v feature without any issue. I'm lost now. I don't see any problems if I'm using windows 10 and a ton of problems with server. This could be some setting I need to enable in the bios alongside svm when using server but I'm really pulling at thin air now.


Posted By: Filthyscum
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by tombmedia tombmedia wrote:

Ugh. I was able to install windows 10 on the x399 machine and was able to successfully install the hyper-v feature without any issue. I'm lost now. I don't see any problems if I'm using windows 10 and a ton of problems with server. This could be some setting I need to enable in the bios alongside svm when using server but I'm really pulling at thin air now.

Probably late to the party, but I was unable to install any kind of windows off official MS sticks. Had to make one in bootcamp (no native windows hosts..) from the latest MS ISO. I have been told of similar problems with SVM, IOMMU, ACS etc. enabled. Check to see if those virtualization options in BIOS are disabled and not set to auto when loading defaults.

I have no big problems with running vanilla Windows 10, but running Fedora with vfio in mind it's just not working (devices stuck in D3 state).

Other things to note: with certain controller card (i.e Fresco Logic chipset), a Threadripper system will not post (exit code 64)


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by Filthyscum Filthyscum wrote:

Other things to note: with certain controller card (i.e Fresco Logic chipset), a Threadripper system will not post (exit code 64)


Fresco Logic cards have baffled me many a time.


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:03pm
Sorry filthy but without svm this board/cpu has no value to me.

I have no problems booting off win10 and win2012r2, just 2016 won't boot. 2012r2 won't run with svm enabled but it installs and runs fine otherwise.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:40pm
" rel="nofollow - tombmedia, what do you think about trying a flat install?  I have been running Hyper-V on by system (below) since I built it with not problems.  I am considering a TR and will do more testing if I build one.  I searched for how a homeboy gets a trial copy of Server 2016 and failed.  I hope you can suggest something and tell me exactly what version you are using.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

EDIT:  I keep forgetting to mention to all of you.  There are almost no ASRock employees here (just ASROCK_TSD that I know of), so we are all users as you are.  All of you please open tickets and complain.  If it were me I would try to find an e-mail address in Taiwan (.tw at end of URL) and bug them.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:51pm
I shouldn't have to do that stuff to install operating systems (i know I can to automate things). I'm a consultant who has been asked if TR is a good smb server platform, I'm not going to get others to go through this nightmare. If this is a TR issue I will just not suggest TR if this is a vendor issue I'll just not recommend the vendor that has issues.

Doesn't explain why svm stops server 2012r2 from working after a successful install. I have a couple more things to test before I go grab that other TR board, I'll update as I go.

If you have an msdn subscription you can download all the operating systems from ms to test with. The exact version I am using is en_windows_server_2016_x64_dvd_9718492.iso which is the latest available online. I wouldn't know where to get another copy you are unable to install without a key unlike win10.

I'll also mention J that this TR build is REPLACING a X370 build that was running successfully for months as I waiting for my TR gear to arrive. I have NO problems on x370 with any of the operating systems or with hyper-v, this issue is exclusive to TR right now. Socket AM4 is a great smb server socket, esp with some older products that still license by socket.

Like I said I have a couple more rounds in the chamber, I'll let you know when the clip is empty.


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 12:24am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

EDIT:? I keep forgetting to mention to all of you.? There are almost no ASRock employees here (just ASROCK_TSD that I know of), so we are all users as you are.? All of you please open tickets and complain.? If it were me I would try to find an e-mail address in Taiwan (.tw at end of URL) and bug them.

For sure mate, thanks again for all the help everyone. I'm here because I'm a big asrock fan and I'm hoping to have exhausted all my options before I open a ticket. I'm pretty close to having run out of options, I just need to try with a different vendor to make sure its not TR or specifically my cpu.

This is literally the only post on the internet right now that has my issue which in itself is suspicious.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 1:32am
" rel="nofollow - tombmedia, I 100% agree with you.  You should be able to install as you wish.  I'm beginning to suspect TR is having sever teething  problems, whether ASRock board or AMD, I do not know.  You can try sending a private message to ASrock_TSD.  I tried on one problem and got no response.  But, please do open support tickets.  If I get to a point of being able to test, I will.  Sorry for all the problems, John.

EDIT: A totally wild idea:  Have you tried to disable the microcode cache in the BIOS?


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 4:34am
tombmedia, have you tried disabling SMT?  Please see my EDIT just above.  Also interesting https://www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-supported-os-hypervisor-compatibility-matrix-launch/" rel="nofollow - article about EPYC.  Enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 5:39am
yeah that was the first thing I tried when 2012 gave me issues. because of the exact same article actually


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 7:20am
OK, tombmedia, thanks.  Enjoy, John.


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Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD


Posted By: CPB
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 1:10pm
Hi, This seems to be the trouble im having but with linux install. I did have linux install, borked up something and had to do a fresh install now i cant get anything but the installer boot animation. Ive tried pretty much 3 usbs, 4 diff linux os iso, tried rufus, lil usb and unetbootin. Removed ram, diff usb ports and downgraded the bios version still have a giant brick atm. 


Posted By: CPB
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 2:35pm
Not sure if this might be the same for windows and linux. Worth a look. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6vbe6w/threadripper_broken_on_linux_for_pci_passthrough/" rel="nofollow - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6vbe6w/threadripper_broken_on_linux_for_pci_passthrough/


Posted By: mharidas
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 12:45am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by tombmedia tombmedia wrote:

I get an initial boot off the thumbdrive, then a grey screen with the "Loading Files" message and a white progressbar which loads twice and then flips to either a windows logo or the asrock logo (depending on my approach) and from there  it just hangs. I no longer see any drive activity nor does it read anymore from the usb drive. I've left it for days and no activity.
 
Other weird thing is in that state I can hit the power button and it just turns right off, so it doesn't look like the setup os is loading at all.
 
MB post codes are off at this point as it has booted something but not enough to continue.


Are you running off a USB with the main wim file split into two or more SWM files? MS states their Windows 10 and Server OS setup executable does not support split SWMs at the moment.

I had to install Win 10 first and then upgrade on-top of that but soon after the first reboot into the Windows Server 2016 installation process I was faced with the similar boot logo pause. The solution to my issues was to disable IOMMU from within the BIOS. This ensures installation completes and the OS can reboot without issue any number of times there after.

 


Posted By: tombmedia
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2017 at 10:05am
Can confirm. The issue with booting off the USB key is no longer an issue with IOMMU disabled in the BIOS. Running more tests to see if this is the issue with SVM on 2012.


Posted By: Kyuu
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 12:36am
" rel="nofollow - Can confirm as well, neither WS2016 installer or OS after installation works with IOMMU enabled. Curious tiny detail though, when I have virtualization enabled, it goes just a bit further. 
- Virtualization off + IOMMU on = Windows logo freeze permanently
- Virtualization on + IOMMU on = Windows logo with loading effect, and soon onto the forementioned BSOD > also ended up clearing all BIOS settings (?)

Sidenote though, was happy to see that the Win10 drivers for onboard RAID work just fine with WS2016. I plan to try and run test virtualization workloads that anyways come off SAN, so performance on the boot drive doesn't matter much, two old SSD's will do just fine. Waiting to see the M.2 RAID option promised later.

This is my first Asrock motherboard and first AMD hardware of any kind for many, many years. Despite these little issues, I'm quite pleased with what I've seen so far.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 1:57am
Thanks all.  I also discovered that W10 versions below RS2 (less than 1703) will not install without IOMMU disabled.  I thought this may have been the Server 2016 problem.  I have discovered another aspect of having SVM enabled.  On my system (specs in signature) only the USB 3.1 on the rear of machine work with SVM enabled.  I have opened a ticket with ASRock concerning this.  I personally think TR has a ways to go.  The AGESA/BIOS is way down level compared to my R7 1800X.  I am resolved to wait AMD/ASRock out.  I have a very stable system but cannot get the memory I want because the BIOS/AGESA will not allow it to run.  Another work around worth trying to avoid disabling IOMMU is to boot the latest version of WinPE and do a flat install (install from a drive - works for me)  Enjoy, John.


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