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Topic: x399 Professional RAM speed
Posted By: jbmerrill
Subject: x399 Professional RAM speed
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 10:24pm
Hello (datonyb),

I am having trouble running my 128GB G.skill 3200Mhz C14 RGB TridentZ RAM at any speed above 2800Mhz. With the latest L3.23B uefi, I was able to run fairly stable at 2933Mhz using xmp profile1, but not 100%. I am sure there may be timing / voltage, and tweaking settings that could be tried, but I am not versed in these and would greatly appreciate any advice for getting my RAM to run higher than 2800Mhz.

Thanks for any assistance with this. Please let me know what info. I should provide.

Bryan

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1



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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 10:58pm
128gb at 3200mhz error free ?

ask me something easier like costless energy without fossil fuels ..............LOL

i think if its possible ,its going to tak maybe some looser timings (that may well come at a cost to overall system speed though), e.g. you may find 2800 cl14 actually performs better than 3200

first off a good base is to run thaiphoon and get your ram details saved as a screen shot for reference

then download '1usmus'    ryzen ram calculator and see whats its suggesting (take some screen shots of that ) for safe + fast settings  and i'll try and find some suggestions from chew/stilt for tr4

the plan would be to start with ryzen calc safe settings and then tweak with other known options from chew and stilt

to 1, get it stable and then 2, maybe tighten it up a bit

you realise you already have plenty of envious green eyes on you for getting 128gb upto 2800mhz
already ?Tongue


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 11:01pm
p.s.

you look like you may have more hard drives than seagate retail store Wink

can you find a spare to install a disposable windows install on ?

its possible to mess up an install with crashes etc ,so its better to have a test drive that you can wreck the install on and just spam a new install into without a care in 5 mins


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 11:06pm
p.p.s.

turn off rgb software thingies for ram when running thaiphoon (theres rumours about it overloading the spd bus when reading) just to make sure


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 11:29pm
Wow, thanks very much for the quick timely replies.

I am looking for Taiphoon now, and will get screen shots of that and Ryzen Calculator.

I see what you mean about speed vs timings and hope you can help me get an optimal configuration.

Also, you are right, I do have several storage drives including ones that I can test with as I have indeed tried clean installs on them. I have a 1 TB SS 850 Evo 2.5" ssd Raid 0 array available, in addition to the entire Ultra Quad 1TB Raid 0 array.

I can and will turn off the RAM RGB Leds.

Bryan




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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 1:34am
its that quad raid im worried about corrupting............................

hence suggestion for a plain old drive that isnt a drama if it corrupts with crashes,to be fair its not a high chance, but its a chance it can crash and mess the file system


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 1:51am
" rel="nofollow - Hi,

I finally got Thaiphoon, but am hesitant to run it due to the warnings about the possible damage that can be done. Do you have any tips on how to run it and what options to choose? Also, my Ultra Quad does not have anything important on it right now, and trashing the file system would not be a problem as long as there is no physical damage, I can delete / re-create the array and data.

See the link below for Dram Calculator; 1st image is Fast, and 2nd is Safe


https://imgur.com/a/5nio14K

Thanks,

B.

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:43am
i run it on rgb ram (but the ram is default scrolling thru the lgbt rainbows)
i suggest just following the video guide from page 1 of dram calculator thread on overclockers

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html#post_26417503" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html#post_26417503




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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:46am
one quick thing ,you need to set the field called rank to 2

you have dual ranked sticks i believe

and im afraid im off now my legs are killing me sat here at deskConfused


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:49am
O.K. Thanks very much. Hope to talk to you later.

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 8:39pm
im about again today ,when your timezone gets the sun im here LOL


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2018 at 1:24am
okay well im off for the night soon so

leaving some tips for you
1, save a bios profile before doing anything, this can be reloaded if and when you get bored playing
2, try to get 4 sticks working first boot it a few times and then dump the extra 4 in
3, last but not least have a read here for some insight into your board and the ram profiles

https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1638140-asrock-x399-taichi-fatality-overclocking-unofficial-support.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1638140-asrock-x399-taichi-fatality-overclocking-unofficial-support.html

of particular note post numbers
69
75
105
110
166
495
499

all contain helpful info which may help us get you either at magical 3200 or tight stable 2933


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2018 at 2:35pm
Thanks so much, I have not had time today to do anything, but will try as soon as possible.

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 9:37pm
Good day datonyb,

I am at work, and have only had time to re-do the DRAM calculator w/ ranks set to 2, and attempted to run taiphoon. The screen shots can be found at the URL below. I will start reading the posts that you referenced, but if you glean any useful info from my screenshots, I would be most grateful to know about it. I will try uefi settings tonight if possible, but I am concentrating right now on Windows not restarting or shutting down or sleeping properly on the Asrock Ultra Quad raid array.

Thanks,

Bryan

https://imgur.com/a/53ebbfm" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/a/53ebbfm

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2018 at 1:51am
" rel="nofollow -
you have to run thiaphoon as admin

right click >open as admin/run as admin

but where did you get the values for the calc. then ?


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2018 at 2:32am
Yes, I did run thaiphoon as admin, but still got the error messages shown in the screenshots. I'm not sure what you mean about where did I get the values for the Calc. I just selected R-XMP and then calculate safe and calculate fast

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2018 at 4:04am
arh thats why we wanted thiaphoon

it gives us the values to enter into the calc, instead of clicking rxmp


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Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 12:25am
" rel="nofollow - Hello datonyb,

I have uploaded my Thaiphoon screenshot to imgur. It is at:

https://imgur.com/a/MfiPNbp

I did another clean install of Win 10 Pro to my standalone Samsung 960 Pro, and was able to run Thaiphoon as administrator correctly and clicking on the 'Read' button. Do I also need to upload the 'Report'? Let me know what else I should do if you could. I will also be looking at Ryzen DRAM calculator again.

Thanks much,

Bryan

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 12:54am
no just click report
scroll to the bottom
click show in nanoseconds
scroll to bottom again
and this section now has the timings shown in nano seconds

these you enter into the ram calculator left coloum
AFTER clicking the tab/option for custom

so in the ram calc window
select
mem type =b die
profile = custom
mem rank =2
freq = 3200
bclk= 100
dimm mod = 8

and then the data/timings shown in thaiphoon in the spaces under that

then click safe and take a picture of results

i would also suggest for future help clicking the speed option to 3333 and then safe (we may be able to make these timings work at 3200 if the suggested 3200 wont work, if you get my meaning)
as these should be a bit looser and maybe they will work at 3200 better than the suggested tighter 3200 timings

remember to also check results given in tab 2 of the calc (advanced) as these are voltages etc needed


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: jbmerrill
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 12:22am
" rel="nofollow - Hello datonyb,

So sorry for the delayed response, but I cannot get Thaiphoon burner to run again on my Win10 system as shown in the screenshot that I give a link to below, because it says it cannot install the kernel mode driver due to insufficient privileges even though I ran it as administrator. Any ideas? I have emailed the developer but have not received a reply yet.


https://imgur.com/a/slGFjo0

Thanks,

Bryan

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X399 Pro Gaming, 2990wx Threadripper,128GB G.Skill RGB 3200,EVGA 1200 P2,EVGA GTX 1080 Ti x 2 SLI, Enermax Liqtech 360mm,Samsung 970 EVO/960 Pro/850 EVOs, Toshiba x300 HDDs, Thermaltake Chaser MK-1



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