X370 Fatal1ty Gaming Professional - [BIOS v2.x]

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 twf85 wrote:

When we have a BIOS with the new microcode, I'll give that whirl. All I really care about now is reducing my startup times and system stability. I'm beginning to doubt that we'll see 3600 on the first iteration of Zen. They'll probably use that as a selling point for Zen+ to try and lure some of the early adopters away from 1st gen, so I think I've taken this system as far as it can *safely* go (apart from upgrading to a 960 Pro, but SSD prices are skyrocketing right now and I doubt that will change anytime soon).
 I can't really say if my 1800x is running warmer or not as the temps are fairly warm today c. 83F so they were already running a bit warmer.

Also didn't help me w/memory at all apparently (2x16GB ripjawv) as I can still only do 2400 whereas 1.93D and below happily did 2667 w/o monkeying w/voltages which I have NOT yet tried WITH 2.30, just monkeyed with timings after trying XMP right OOB again. Tried 2667 after XMP, but gave up and went back to 2400 which thankfully still worked.

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TEMPS: I'm NOT seeing higher idle temps even w/elevated ambient beyond what I had been reading earlier which are, obviously higher v. c. 70F ambient HOWEVER I AM using an H110i AIO which MAY be the difference although it's set to it's 'quiet' setting as I've found that that setting performs well enough even under HEAVY stress testing v. higher settings being relatively 'noisy'.
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Ryzen 7.  I'm bailing for threadripper.  AMD made a major FUBAR w/ the low-mid range chips IMNHO. ALL of the 6/8C X chips SHOULD have been quad channel memory/28 PCIe lanes to TRULY differentiate them from the 'lesser' non-'X' chips. FURTHER I think that they should've not gone Ryzen 3 w/o SMT and SHOULD have made the 4C/8T chips the 3s w/the non-X 6/8C as the 5s.

NB I COULD see 4C/4T being ubercheap OEM tray parts but in the wild they lose ANY advantage Ryzen has which is more cores and somewhat more efficient(apparently) SMT v. mythical intel parts at similar clock/IPC/etc, i.e. everything else being 'equal'...  They can only be dirt cheap BUT Intel has dirt cheap as well which tend to end up aligning to latest core design -> better IPC w/same cores plus price parity or less. I do NOT think that vega as the IGP would make enough of a difference v. Intel HD to warrant lower IPC as these things tend to go into e.g. HTPC where if they can decode codec of the month they're good to go and noone mostly cares about it can run quake or whatever at 1E06 FPS v. merely 7E05 FPS as long as it decodes that codec @ 60FPS(or 30 or whatever) at some stupidly high resolution... (yes something I find like FPS beyond a point, it becomes why? just to brag about?)

i.e. IMNHO AMD did an extremely poor job differentiating the low end and to an extent they're doing it again with threadripper/epyc as the ONLY difference ATM seems to be one one socket for threadripper v. potentially multiple for epyc.  Have to see if there are any socket changes as well since I read in one place yes slightly different but haven't seen that anywhere else yet.

16C was what I was really planning on anyways, and I guess that I spent too much for a test system HOWEVER at pre-order I REALLY expected SOMETHING EXTRA from the Xs that they hadn't bothered to mention, but nope... nadathing...  Shortest lasting build that I think that I have ever built as I don't even think that I'm going to keep the 7 around for a server since I have the x79 already earmarked for that role and it's just better equipped overall, only missing USB 3.1 but who cares on a server? Which is VASTLY outweighed by it's I/O capabilities... still...  (Intel made the X series too good ...)

Be nice to be back to good ol' LGA again as well...

Edited by cutterjohn - 18 May 2017 at 6:54am