X370 Pro Gaming TestBetaBIOS 5.24 missing options

Most likely microsoft holding amd/asrock by the nut's to make everyone one hop on malware10

I finally got some free time to play with my BIOS this week. I am experiencing lots of issues with the latest 5.30 BIOS. I understand if AMD is removing options, but ASRock needs to take the initiative and better optimize BIOSes for their boards.

RAM overclocking has been gimped. BGS Alt was added but everything else relating to RAM OCing is now removed. Core/Thread enable has been gimped. Ie: 3+3, 4+0 core options don't exist. The list goes on. This BIOS update is a HUGE downgrade in general. It should have never been released as "stable" in this state. If AMD removed stuff, talk to them about adding it back. This is unacceptable. The release BIOS for this board had more functionality on day 1 of Ryzen 1st gen, than it does on release of Ryzen 3rd gen. I am updating my BIOS for security reasons, and I shouldn't be punished for keeping my system up-to date. It's 2019, updating firmware/software shouldn't be a big deal anymore.

There is a list of features that are listed on my boards Specs that are no longer available in BIOS. Basic features like "Hyper BCLK Engine II" are missing.

I updated to the 5.30 BIOS on Tuesday, and immediately after applying the BIOS update Windows could not boot due to "NTLDR is missing". I was eventually able to get Windows to boot, but SFC was still finding files it was unable to repair. After hours of troubleshooting I realized that I could not repair Windows and was forced to completely reinstall Windows yesterday. If this long post didn't make it clear, I'm still pretty mad about it.

This is supposed to be a high end board. With the release of the latest BIOS it might as well be a B350 board now. I don't know who you need to talk to about this, but somebody need to get on it. This is the last straw for me, this board has been nothing but a pain in my ass since I got it. While reinstalling Windows I came to the conclusion that I will never buy another ASRock product because this "high end" board still feels half baked. Isn't this board supposed to be one of your best products? If this is one of ASRock's best I can't imagine your worst. It's been years and this board is still filled with BIOS bugs. Like if you don't apply XMP then reboot before changing CPU multipliers the board will fail to boot. That is just one bug that has existed since day 1. Clear CMOS doesn't actually clear the CMOS anymore, it partially clears it. WTF is going on with this board?

After checking, the reason is that AMD remove this option with Agesa code 1.0.0.1
ASRock does not remove it.
So, we cannot add it back due to this option does not exist in primitive AMD Agesa 1.0.0.1 code.

PSP is a big issue. Their security through obscurity proved to be a disaster times and again.

I too would like to have a PSP toggle switch, but let me tell you why I will keep it ON.

Unless you are using an air-gapped machine with strict physical access, you need some sort of TPM. And here is the problem - you can either use an external TPM chip (which the mobo doesn't have a header for), or use AMD's fTPM (which is part of PSP).

Recently leaked NSA tools are already being used by people around the world to reverse-engineer the PSP and other low-level systems. Hopefully we will get a hardened, backdoor-free platforms soon enough.

I was not expecting features to be removed.

BIOS PSP toggle is missing, which i think an important option to be exposed because of undiscovered hardware exploits. I have kept PSP disabled since Spectre/Meltdown. PSP can't be exploited if it's turned off, is the theory.

External BCLK generator is not available, this is a feature of the board listed on the product page. I would like to use it if it ever gets fixed properly.

There are also CBS options that are relevant to RAM overclocking that are no longer exposed in BIOS.