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    Posted: 07 Dec 2016 at 3:10am
After days of trying I've come to no success with the memory so I decided to swap it back at the store with some XPG V3 1600Mhz CL9 | 9-9-9-24 . Seems to be the best option to keep it on 1600Mhz and have no issues rather than OC the system and everything.

Thank you all for the support!
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That is kind of what I suggested. After a CMOS clear it should detect the modules freshly with some default frequency like 1600 MHz. If it's stable, troubleshooting / frequency raising tests may begin.
 
You are right of corse that every memory controller has its limitations. But usually it works very well with higher frequencies (except >2200 MHz because of CPU-NB OC).
I am convinced however that not the controller is the prime limiter, but BIOS/EFI incompatibilities! Why else would one module work on one board and not on the other, but with the same CPU and its integrated memory controller? And BIOS/EFI Updates often state "enhanced memory compatibility".
PC1: FX-9590@def|290 |16GB@2133|Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
PC2: FX-8320@4.5|290 |16GB@2133| "
PC3: FX-9590@def|280X|16GB@2133| "
PC4: FX-9370@def|280X|16GB@2133| "
PC5: FX-6300@4.6|7950|16GB@1866|990FX-UD3
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For troubleshooting, it would be better to stick with 1600 MHz and the appropriate timings. Let's not forget that the official maximum RAM speed is 1600 MHz for two sticks of RAM and four available RAM slots on the motherboard. Anything above that is an OC. The 1866 MHz speed is officially not an OC only with two sticks of RAM and motherboards with only two available RAM slots.
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Your Windows installation does not have any fault. It is definetly the RAM/MB combo and/or its settings.
 
Before we continue with troubleshooting, you really should consider whether you want to go on with these memory sticks and achive 2400 MHz as more than 1866 doesn't add much to performance on the AM3+ platform. In fact, by raising from 2133 to 2400 MHz it does not perform any better and might causes further problems as you have to overclock CPU-NB from 2200 to 2400 MHz as well. CPU-NB speed has to be equal or higher than memory speed. It is possible that your CPU-NB causes the instability, not the memory itself.
 
I highly recommend striving for 2133 and leave the CPU-NB alone. The voltage needed to get above 2200 MHz is not worth the risk and might cause more trouble, even if you think it is stable!
 
You said that you had to set the XMP profile AND memory speed to 2400. What is the memory speed setting if you just set XMP? It could be that you can choose more than one profile (1866, 2133, 2400). If so, try the lower profiles.
If no profile works for you, it would be best to read out its timings for 1866 and/or 2133 MHz by using tools like CPU-Z (not showing all profiles), AIDA64 (hopefully the demo version is capable of showing it) or spec sheets from the manufacturer and set up BIOS manually.
 
To begin from the start, I recommend: Power off, clear CMOS and power on again. Now it should detect your CPU, memory, etc. as it was brand new. Once I switched two brands of modules between mainboards and switched back. After that one combo was unstable although set up exactly as before. I had to clear CMOS to get rid of whatever background settings...
 
After that try if you can boot and if that works try my recommendations.
 
Good luck!


Edited by WKjun - 05 Dec 2016 at 7:38pm
PC1: FX-9590@def|290 |16GB@2133|Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
PC2: FX-8320@4.5|290 |16GB@2133| "
PC3: FX-9590@def|280X|16GB@2133| "
PC4: FX-9370@def|280X|16GB@2133| "
PC5: FX-6300@4.6|7950|16GB@1866|990FX-UD3
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by cynk43 cynk43 wrote:


With the solution from wardog above I don't get to BSOD any more but I cannot get into windows either


Fresh OS install, unless you can get into the Repair Windows screen.

Unfortunately I can't get to Windows setup either... That one restarts too after the loading screen....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2016 at 9:16am
Originally posted by cynk43 cynk43 wrote:


With the solution from wardog above I don't get to BSOD any more but I cannot get into windows either


Fresh OS install, unless you can get into the Repair Windows screen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2016 at 9:14am
Originally posted by cynk43 cynk43 wrote:


With the solution from wardog above I don't get to BSOD any more but I cannot get into windows either


Then it's what PetrolHead says.

Any chance the drive you're using is from the "old' computer? If so, that's why.



But it's good to hear your BSODs are a thing of the past.





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Originally posted by PetrolHead PetrolHead wrote:

Can you boot to Windows on any memory settings (try stock voltages and 1600 MHz with the appropriate timings if you haven't yet)? Can you run Windows in safe mode? Quick googling implies that "BAD_SYSTEM_CONFIG_INFO" is a registry issue, not a memory issue. Did you have any issues while installing Windows?

I run them on 1600Mhz now, it was the only way I could install Windows... If I set them to 2400, even Windows setup gave me the BSOD "BAD_SYSTEM_CONFIG_INFO", I cannot get to safe mode or any other mode with them... 

With the solution from wardog above I don't get to BSOD any more but I cannot get into windows either
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Can you boot to Windows on any memory settings (try stock voltages and 1600 MHz with the appropriate timings if you haven't yet)? Can you run Windows in safe mode? Quick googling implies that "BAD_SYSTEM_CONFIG_INFO" is a registry issue, not a memory issue. Did you have any issues while installing Windows?
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:


OK, good. You ARE making it into Windows.


Let's get these set so you can enjoy your computer.

1. Sticks in A2 and B2
2. Boot her up and into the BIOS
2a. BIOS > OC Tweaker > Multiplier/Voltage Change: Manual > CPU NB Voltage: add +0.05v  to existing CPU NB value shown. Note: This is not NB Voltage, but CPU NB Voltage. The "CPU NB Voltage" feeds the IMC, which sometimes with faster sticks you need to compensate the IMC for carrying the additional load.
2b. Set/choose the XMP Profile only, Save and Exit the BIOS.
3. Upon boot let it enter into Windows


4. Post back the results after following steps 1-3 above, please.

I am not making it actually to windows. I get to the loading screen and when it should enter the Login screen it restarts,

Also tried the steps above, changed the CPU NB Voltage from 1.40 (default) to 1.45v and set the XMP profile, but the same result, the windows loading screen works, and when it should enter the login screen it restarts 
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