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    Posted: 05 Feb 2018 at 1:21am
At least some of ASRock's AM4 motherboards do work headless.
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Originally posted by zlobster zlobster wrote:

Originally posted by php42 php42 wrote:

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors


Sadly, yes. That's why KPTI has to be implemented as well. AMD have been kicking in performance & price/performance as well. Only their discrete graphics are a bit behind now. Can't have it all, I guess? Disapprove

We hijacked this thread good, no? LOL Sorry, OP!

No, AMD CPUs don't need the KPTI fix, see evidence in the kernel commit here:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/27/2

AMDs need only a fix for Variant 1 -- without big performance hit. 
The real performance hit comes from Variant 3 and AMD is not affected.
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Originally posted by php42 php42 wrote:

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors


Sadly, yes. That's why KPTI has to be implemented as well. AMD have been kicking in performance & price/performance as well. Only their discrete graphics are a bit behind now. Can't have it all, I guess? Disapprove

We hijacked this thread good, no? LOL Sorry, OP!
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Originally posted by zlobster zlobster wrote:


Maybe you've been living under a rock the last few days? LOL Cough, Spectre, cough, Meltdown, cough, ME...

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors
AMD also has their own variant of ME

still i would agree that AMD is the safer bet :P

EDIT: i should mention that AMD is indeed less vulnerable to meltdown, and so is the safe bet for security reasons


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Originally posted by hansi12 hansi12 wrote:

hmm okay then. Makes Intel attractive again :P



Maybe you've been living under a rock the last few days? LOL Cough, Spectre, cough, Meltdown, cough, ME...

I ain't touching Intel with a 6-foot stick!
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hmm okay then. Makes Intel attractive again :P

Although ive read someone can run without gpu, he had a certain asus atx board and flipped a BIOS setting.
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Originally posted by ssateneth ssateneth wrote:

The system still needs a display adapter of some sort, be it an expansion card, or integrated into the CPU (Current Ryzen chips do not have one). You don't need a monitor but you still need some sort of graphics processor.

If you have an A6-9500 or A8-9600 CPU, which have an iGPU, then you can run without a graphics card, otherwise you will need to purchase a GPU (anything will work, as long as it's a GPU)


He is right, mobo will not POST w/o some sort of GPU. Monitor is optional.

Hell, you can always plop some 1050 or some absolutely entry level GPU and it won't even touch the PSU juice.
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The system still needs a display adapter of some sort, be it an expansion card, or integrated into the CPU (Current Ryzen chips do not have one). You don't need a monitor but you still need some sort of graphics processor.

If you have an A6-9500 or A8-9600 CPU, which have an iGPU, then you can run without a graphics card, otherwise you will need to purchase a GPU (anything will work, as long as it's a GPU)
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my english is just bad :)
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If you say they are able to POST in your first sentence, why do you say they still need a gpu in your last sentence?
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