Task manager reporting wrong CPU speed. Killer SLI

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   This is the issue we are all facing as Ryzen users. We can never tell where the issue is coming from. I spent a month troubleshooting my system for random hangups (not freezing, it would resume after 4 - 5 seconds), I replaced every component and the issue persisted. Reinstalled the OS about a dozen times and nothing. Eventually, by chance, I lost my regular Win 10 install key and had to download and make a new one. Suddenly, my system ran flawlessly..... It turned out that there was an update that was failing to install on the older install version, the new version included it in the installer and problems all went away. I do not like this new OS system from MS at all. I much preferred service packs and new versions.
Almost 0 transparency about what each (forced) update does and no way to tell what is broken half the time. I have not needed to go through the guts of my OS this much since my days building and configuring NT 4 servers......

At least we are slowly moving forward...

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Xaltar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 26118	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xaltar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Task manager reporting wrong CPU speed. Killer SLI Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 4:46am
	This is the issue we are all facing as Ryzen users. We can never tell where the issue is coming from. I spent a month troubleshooting my system for random hangups (not freezing, it would resume after 4 - 5 seconds), I replaced every component and the issue persisted. Reinstalled the OS about a dozen times and nothing. Eventually, by chance, I lost my regular Win 10 install key and had to download and make a new one. Suddenly, my system ran flawlessly..... It turned out that there was an update that was failing to install on the older install version, the new version included it in the installer and problems all went away. I do not like this new OS system from MS at all. I much preferred service packs and new versions. Almost 0 transparency about what each (forced) update does and no way to tell what is broken half the time. I have not needed to go through the guts of my OS this much since my days building and configuring NT 4 servers...... At least we are slowly moving forward...


krj7709 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 10 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 26	Post Options Post Reply Quote krj7709 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 3:51am
	It was doing it with 4.50, 4.60 and L4.61. It is something with one of the later Windows updates. I installed Windows 10 LTSB and the issue goes away. So... I'll run My Windows 10 Pro and deal with the clock not reporting correctly.
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chubalz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2017 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 78	Post Options Post Reply Quote chubalz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 2:27am
	@krj7709, what is your BIOS version? Because the latest BIOS fix my windows incorrect CPU speed information.
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kerberos_20 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Dec 2017 Location: czech republic Status: Offline Points: 3687	Post Options Post Reply Quote kerberos_20 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 11:20pm
	what is your timer resolution at? (like when u set it to 1.0 if it stays at 1.0 or shows less/more) anyway if your windows time (clock) isnt affected, then u have no issues, and its just windows bug due to power saving stuffs if your time is incorrect, then u may have performance issues also hpet is enabled rite?
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krj7709 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 10 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 26	Post Options Post Reply Quote krj7709 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 8:59pm
	I don't think any of them are quite "real-time" and don't know if there is one that is truly real-time? - I want to say but am not 100% certain. When I first got the Ryzen hardware, before updating the BIOS, it was in-sync. I of course updated bios and installed cpu-z and hw-mon and oc'd. I just happen to notice the out-of-sync clock later. Right now I'm running on the base clock and its still out of whack but I'm experiencing some other odd issues that have set the mis-match on the back burner. The main issue is random lag. Another issue is wireless keyboard/mouse cutting in/out with a usb stick plugged in the usb slot next to receiver. But thats all for a later thread/topic.
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wardog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447	Post Options Post Reply Quote wardog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 10:40am
	Windows reporting! I see the same here. Windows is not "Real Time"

JohnM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 267	Post Options Post Reply Quote JohnM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 5:01am
	If this is fixed by updating the BIOS then it must mean that Windows Task Manager is taking its reading from somewhere different from what CPU-Z is measuring. Then again, what is Task Manager actually showing? CPU-Z is monitoring core 0 in that screen grab. HWMonitor is showing all the cores. But it's not at all clear what Task Manager is trying to show, though it's definitely wrong.
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chubalz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2017 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 78	Post Options Post Reply Quote chubalz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 2:31pm
	I know the cause of this its 4.50 Bios. I have same problems as yours windows previously reporting wrong clockspeed of CPU but BIOS, HWmonitor or CPUZ reporting correct information. The fix is update it to 4.60.
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krj7709 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 10 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 26	Post Options Post Reply Quote krj7709 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 11:16am
	I know that the cpu is suposed to throttle. It didn't do this until I reinstalled Windows in UEFI mode. Edited by krj7709 - 11 Mar 2018 at 11:23am
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MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 6:54am
	krj7709, please post screenshots of CPU-Z and the erroneous Task Manager numbers. Remember that these processors have Cool-n-Quiet which vary the CPU clock. You may be able to disable that in your BIOS/UEFI. Enjoy, John.
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