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M440 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2023 Status: Offline Points: 3115 |
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killroy2963 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 555 |
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Thanks I really appreciate your input on this, I agree that it may be AGESA also. How does it work with one bios version but fails on the next, it doesn't make sense to me. |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 23993 |
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AGESA is the backbone of every AMD BIOS. It's basically a program that tells the
system how to handle every single piece of hardware, interrupts, DMA, timings, security, all of it. Enhancing/altering one aspect can cause issues or even break others. A lot of the issues come from security which gets ever more complex with each new exploit that needs patching. It can literally break multiple elements if not handled correctly. If you think about every setting in the BIOS and the code needed to make it work it starts to make a lot more sense how things can be broken or improved in subsequent updates. I am no programmer but I do know that for every exposed (visible) setting in the BIOS there are potentially dozens more that are set automatically. Add to that the fact that the UEFI is not actually a BIOS anymore, it's firmware that interacts with the OS too. It's a far more elegant system than the old BIOS system but also more complex.
The main issue is standardization. Hardware may be standardized to a large degree but it's still subject to interpretation within those standards, particularly RAM and storage. Every possible bit of hardware you could install in your system needs to be covered and handled by the UEFI as well as any security issues said hardware could bring with it. I do not envy the teams working on AGESA (or intel's equivalent). It is a mammoth task and a very tricky one to navigate. If you have ever done any programming then you will have some idea of how difficult it can be, one misplaced punctuation point or value can cause all kinds of gremlins. Worse still, the UEFI needs to fit into a very small ROM chip and it can't use any high level optimizations as those require the UEFI to be loaded to function. Everything needs to be done at the machine code level. Just have a look at all the settings available for RAM alone then imagine that for every setting you see there are at least 10 more you don't. Then add CPUs from multiple generations with different caches, core counts etc all needing to be handled by the UEFI (AGESA). This is just my limited understanding of things mind you, I am not a programmer as I said so all this is just based on my observations. I doubt I am far from the truth however. Hope this is helpful ![]() Edited by Xaltar - 03 Jul 2024 at 6:29am |
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Max33 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jun 2024 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 185 |
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Thanks, already tried with no luck. It just doesn't work with 3.10 bios. Rolled back to 2.10 and boots & memory training are fast and the system is rock stable. Waiting for the next AGESA update that has already been released for X670e Taichi but not for Carrara... |
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Jose1001 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2024 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 130 |
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Sorry for the meddling, tomorrow I receive an ASRock X670E Taichi for a 7950X3D, and I was planning to Update the Bios to 3..01, but I just realized that a 3.04 AS01 [Beta] has come out. Which one installed 3.01 or 3.04 Beta? Thanks a lot
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Max33 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jun 2024 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 185 |
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Nah, I have Taichi Carrara (wich is the same as Taichi but different colors, so I can't test 3.04 beta because it has still not released for my Carrara variant...) Waiting for them to release the new AGESA for my model and crossing fingers... |
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Max33 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jun 2024 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 185 |
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Finally today 3.05 BIOS has released for X670e Taichi Carrara and finally my DDR5 is working again in XMP 6000 aggressive profile!
So yes, most probably it was an AGESA problem. And Asrock support was so kind to test my kit, who knows maybe they'll add it in QVL ;) |
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Vaderesse ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Jul 2024 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Hi!
I have the X670E Taichi Carrara and we just installed it yesterday. We flashed BIOS 3.05. The system posts, however, if we enable XPO, it won't post. It will give me the 00 code or it will stay at 15 for memory training and won't move from there. (Memory training without XPO was almost instant) Additionally, when the PC goes to sleep, and I try to wake it with my mouse or keyboard, it posts code 00 and stays there. All RGBs and fans are on. LASTLY, we tried using Polychrome to set my RAM and CPU AIO RGB colors, but had to install OpenRGB in order to change the RAM colors. Only 3 of 4 sticks will change color. Is it worth trying an older BIOS version, or is my ram the problem? I am using G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB - DDR5-6000 1566 GB x 2 - 2 sets of this exact ram. |
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