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    Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 11:22pm
Hello to everyone,

this will be a long post, so thank you to anyone that does reply and/or tries to help me to resolve the situation.
About 3 weeks ago I have bought the motherboard H170 Pro4/Hyper second hand. Since it looked alright, nothing was damaged, everything was packaged in to the last papered instruction and even the SATA cables, the board looked fine.

Of course something went wrong, mainly, the board isn't working as intended, or precisely at all. As I power on the board, nothing happens, it is dead. No beep, bleep, or anything. It was tested with a i7 6700k, kingston ram and corsair CS power supply at friends test bench who works in a IT firm. He deduced that chipset is probably dead since the heatsink heats up quite rapidly.

I, of course did reach out to technical support, but could not follow up their advice, as I do not have a lot processors or components that I can swap to test if something else is wrong, nor can I give it to various people to test it for me.

Motherboard was bought in Australia and since that's nowhere near me, I cannot reach, nor find the original store that it was bought from and I cannot give it to local retailers since it was not imported from them. I do, however, and it was evidenced through my mail with the technical support, provide serial number, part number, picture proof and bios version that I do own that particular product.

My questions are: Can someone shed more light on what is wrong with the motherboard? Can this be repaired by ASRock? I am willing to pay if that's the only way, since this motherboard cannot be obtained locally and I specifically wanted it.

I do not want by any mean to sound entitled to anything, but I do think, although am not sure, that this particular piece of hardware is under warranty. If it cannot be replaced/RMA'd, I can cover the expense of sending it and paying for the repair.



Thanks to anyone that can answer to at least a portion of my questions and apologies, english is not my native language.
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Lets start with some troubleshooting here:

1. Make sure you have the power cables connected correctly, especially the 8pin CPU power cable. Make sure it is not a PCIe 8pin power cable.

2. Remove the CPU and check for bent pins in the socket and that the CPU was installed in the correct orientation.

3. Clear CMOS via the jumper being sure to follow the instructions in the user manual.

4. Try setting your BIOS to BIOS B via the BIOS select jumper.


If the chipset is heating up (and I assume you mean very hot) then there is some kind of short somewhere or the power is not correctly connected. Make sure the clear CMOS jumper is not set in the clear position. If none of the above steps help then post back here.
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Thank you.

I will do this tomorrow after work and will report the results.
The test will be done with a Celeron G3900, since that is the CPU available to me.
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

If the chipset is heating up (and I assume you mean very hot).......


Also, check that all three heatsinks are securely fastened.
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

Lets start with some troubleshooting here:

1. Make sure you have the power cables connected correctly, especially the 8pin CPU power cable. Make sure it is not PCIe 8pin power cable.


They're connected properly.


Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

2. Remove the CPU and check for bent pins in the socket and that the CPU was installed in the correct orientation.


Checked, looks fine to me.

Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

3. Clear CMOS via the jumper being sure to follow the instructions in the user manual.


Cleared as per instructions on page 18 of the manual.

Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

4. Try setting your BIOS to BIOS B via the BIOS select jumper.


Don't know how to do that. Could not find it in the manual.


Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

If the chipset is heating up (and I assume you mean very hot) then there is some kind of short somewhere or the power is not correctly connected. Make sure the clear CMOS jumper is not set in the clear position. If none of the above steps help then post back here.


The jumper is properly positioned as per written instructions.



Conclusion: nothing helped, and my mouse is flickering constantly. The computer does not turn on or produces any sounds. Pics of work below.

















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Have more pictures if needed. Will post them later or tomorrow. Need to get my daily rig up and running.

Back on my old system. As written above, I have tried all the steps.

Parts used:

MOBO: ASRock H170 Pro4/Hyper
CPU: Skylake Celeron G3900
RAM: 4GB Kingston DDR4 2133 MHz (KVR21N15S8/4)
Power Supply: ENERMAX NAXN 650W Bronze Certified 80+
HDD's: 120GB Samsung Evo Basic 840, Intel 520 240GB, 1TB WD Caviar Green



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So, it seems that the board shorts out somewhere.
Can anyone verify that opinion?
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Have you tried running it outside the case? This is typically called bread-boarding and it will rule out the possibility that the case itself is shorting against the board somewhere. 
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Yes, it was tested on a bench outside of the case with an i7. Same thing was happening.
I am really sad that I cannot upgrade to Skylake Cry
If this fails, I'll start collecting for the E3V5 Fatality board with a Xeon.Nuke
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Any reason for the CPU cooler to be not mounted, besides showing the pins in the CPU socket?

The pictures, besides showing obvious physical damage, or power cable connection problems, are not worth anything. I would inspect the underside of the board, which is more likely to reveal damage to components, or shorted pins from the memory slots, for example.

Otherwise, a short circuit is only one of possible problems with a PC mother board. The only way I would buy a used mother board, is from someone I knew, or could see it working myself. There are too many things invisible to the human eye that can fail.

Electronic component failures on a mother board can only be seen if the component is damaged from heat, being burned. Otherwise there is nothing to see.

Your mouse is flickering constantly? Is it a wired mouse, connected to a USB port? Do you mean the light from the bottom of the mouse, used to detect its movement? If so, that can be normal, as the mouse goes into a low power state when it is doing nothing.

If the flickering is from an LED on the top of the mouse, only used for appearance, and is a wired mouse connected to a USB port, that could mean your power supply is not working correctly.

Have you tried more than one power supply with this board?
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