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    Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 2:08am
Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(


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Look qvl list and buy ram, 16gb ram don't running
Taichi X370
AMD R7 1700X
Arctic Liquid FreeZer 240
G.Skill Flare X 3200 cl 14@2933
PowerColer RX480
Phanteks EnTHoo Luxe
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the problem you have is two fold really
for starters 32 gb seems harder to achieve higher speeds than 16 gb (2x8gb) this is due to 16gb sticks all being double sided with the ic's (dual ranked)
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the 3200c16 ripjaws are the ryzen unfriendly hynix ics
the special ram designed for ryzen is by gskill called flarex this uses single sided layout of ics and uses samsung b dies which have the best chance of working as intended
things however should vastly improve in mid may time when the new heavily revised bios codes are released from amd to the boardmakers and thus the users

at present most ram that can hit 3200 will be no larger than 2 sticks of 8gb with single sided samsung b dies (as a rule)
i have seen some reports now of corsair (very few) and TEAM ram hitting 3200 (the team ram was all single sided b dies as well)
try searching on google for other people using your board and also try google a website called
rymem

hope this helps enlighten you a bit
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I have both X370 Taichi and X370 Fatality Pro Gaming with bios 2.0. 1800X CPU @ 3925MHz with auto volts = 1.35 (default VID) LLC - 2 equals 1.33v load measured at socket with DMM. On both boards I can run Corsair vengeance LED 3000MHz - CMU64GX4M4C3000C15 with 2 x 16GB sticks @ 2933MHz 18-17-17-17-35 with 1.35v and SOC 1.0v LLC -3 no problem


Dual Rank Hynix chips as well   

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 9:27am
well if you had gskill you might be on 3200 at cl15  Tongue

but i thought we were trying to help the op not pee higher up a wall

p.s. on a serious note you should be able to drop your vcore down to 1.30 easily at least on the taichi
mine went easily there (also at llc 2)
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Originally posted by lowdog lowdog wrote:

I have both X370 Taichi and X370 Fatality Pro Gaming with bios 2.0. 1800X CPU @ 3925MHz with auto volts = 1.35 (default VID) LLC - 2 equals 1.33v load measured at socket with DMM. On both boards I can run Corsair vengeance LED 3000MHz - CMU64GX4M4C3000C15 with 2 x 16GB sticks @ 2933MHz 18-17-17-17-35 with 1.35v and SOC 1.0v LLC -3 no problem


Dual Rank Hynix chips as well   


So you mean you bought 64Gb and you have now 2 x 16 in both motherboards? Had you any problem with 2933 frequency? If no maybe I will also buy these rams...

BTW there is no 16GB (one stick) with 3200Mhz support listed in Asrock qvl ;/


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bapi23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

well if you had gskill you might be on 3200 at cl15  Tongue

but i thought we were trying to help the op not pee higher up a wall

p.s. on a serious note you should be able to drop your vcore down to 1.30 easily at least on the taichi
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You mean that I should buy mem with cl 15? to achieve 3200Mhz?

What about these rams:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW/

cl is 14
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 11:38pm
at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%
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I think that now the most important for me is if should I give back my cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk and there is only a little chance that it will work on highest frequencies with may bios update. Looks like lowdog was able to achieve 3000Mhz but with 18cl?!
18/3000 = 0,006

so looks like it's still better now than:

16/2133 = 0,0075 which is my current setup

(but I'm not sure my ram works with 16cl now - xfr profile doesn't work at all)

So what do you think - should I give back my rapijaws and buy ram with the lowest cl? like linked Trident Z or buy corsais vengance led checked by lowdog to run it 3000Mhz/18cl?

PS looks like I will have still 14 days to give back Trident Z ram if I would buy it:D
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 12:44am
to be honest i dont think the ripjaws is a good choice imho

i have tridentz but my board is a taichi and that seems to play well with that
if lowdog has your board i would probably myself be more inclined to copy another similar setup to try and hopefully get something more likely to work
but if your still trying for 32 gb then the suggested ram by lowdog would be better
as the gskill 16gb sticks would be double sided and i feel sure would not reach 3200 speeds yet
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