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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%

could you give me a link to post from guy with exactly the same Trident Z 32GB issue? I'm curious what you mean by "any good speed":) looks like this ram support 14cl with 3200Mhz so it should be best option if may update will finally resolve all issues...
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Originally posted by cutterjohn cutterjohn wrote:

Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(
I have the same kit.  I HAD it going stable @ 2667, IIRC @ 16-16-16-16-38 1.35V on BIOSes PRIOR to 2.00.  That was showing in every utility to be running at 1T CR.

WITH 2.00 I can get it to 2400, 1.35V with loose timings, IRC 18-18-18-18-53 (check the pro thread I think I put the values in one of my posts).  EVERY utility NOW shows it to be running at CR 2T!  ALL attempts to go above 2400 @ 1.35V now fail.

ALSO the QVL list has been EDITED. MANY parts that used to be on it are NOW GONE!

2.00 is utter crap IMNHO and should've been pulled other than I guess that they wanted the Ryzen 5 support and FMA3 workaround. o.w. IME it's a SERIOUS REGRESSION from ALL PRIOR betas/releases.  In addition to crap(pier) RAM support they also BORKED profile loading, so really I guess that 2.00 should've been put under betas...

My board came with 1.20 BIOS originally but I pretty much went to the first BIOS that the WTF they call their in BIOS flash method enabled/working as IIRC the only way to update at the time was with the nailbiting windows method.

Unfortunately looks like cl18 + 2400 (0,0075) is almost the same as cl16+2133 so I don't know if there is eny noticable benefit from that:)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 7:52pm
heres what im using
gskill f4-3200c15d-16gtz (its a 2 x 8gb kit = 16gb)
it is normal tridentz but heres the deal the c14 and c15 3200 kits are all samsung b die
NOT ALL THE C16 KITS ARE ! be warned .......
my actual installation is then as follows
two sticks of ram at 8gb each inserted into slot a2 and b2

now with version bios 2
i can either just click xmp and it loads them ok
or manually set them
either way
i show
15
15
15
35
but when the system boots it always loads 16/15/15/35 into windows (even still says 15/15/15/35 in bios)
no real problem i cant wait for later bios
the other settings i change are
SOC voltage to 1.00 volts and i set it fixed voltage and LLC level 2
vcore is set to fixed volts and llc level 2 also
but i use the p states to tune the cpu and the settings for that are
9c which equals 3900mhz
8
27 which equals 1.306 volts vcore

bryan at tech city (search tech city on you tube) has a very nice simple and easy to understand overclocking guide for the p states cpu on his you tube channel its well worth a watch (is based on taichi bios but should be similar to yours)
[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url]

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Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(
I have the same kit.  I HAD it going stable @ 2667, IIRC @ 16-16-16-16-38 1.35V on BIOSes PRIOR to 2.00.  That was showing in every utility to be running at 1T CR.

WITH 2.00 I can get it to 2400, 1.35V with loose timings, IRC 18-18-18-18-53 (check the pro thread I think I put the values in one of my posts).  EVERY utility NOW shows it to be running at CR 2T!  ALL attempts to go above 2400 @ 1.35V now fail.

ALSO the QVL list has been EDITED. MANY parts that used to be on it are NOW GONE!

2.00 is utter crap IMNHO and should've been pulled other than I guess that they wanted the Ryzen 5 support and FMA3 workaround. o.w. IME it's a SERIOUS REGRESSION from ALL PRIOR betas/releases.  In addition to crap(pier) RAM support they also BORKED profile loading, so really I guess that 2.00 should've been put under betas...

My board came with 1.20 BIOS originally but I pretty much went to the first BIOS that the WTF they call their in BIOS flash method enabled/working as IIRC the only way to update at the time was with the nailbiting windows method.
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

to be honest i dont think the ripjaws is a good choice imho

i have tridentz but my board is a taichi and that seems to play well with that
if lowdog has your board i would probably myself be more inclined to copy another similar setup to try and hopefully get something more likely to work
but if your still trying for 32 gb then the suggested ram by lowdog would be better
as the gskill 16gb sticks would be double sided and i feel sure would not reach 3200 speeds yet

Thanks for your opinion.
I think that there is no big difference between taichi and professional gaming board - I suppose that everything which is supported by taichi should be supported by professional gaming. Could you write down how exactly your setup looks - I mean ram freq, cl, 32 or 16 gb, 4 or 2 slots covered, exact ram model etc?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 12:44am
to be honest i dont think the ripjaws is a good choice imho

i have tridentz but my board is a taichi and that seems to play well with that
if lowdog has your board i would probably myself be more inclined to copy another similar setup to try and hopefully get something more likely to work
but if your still trying for 32 gb then the suggested ram by lowdog would be better
as the gskill 16gb sticks would be double sided and i feel sure would not reach 3200 speeds yet
[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url]

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I think that now the most important for me is if should I give back my cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk and there is only a little chance that it will work on highest frequencies with may bios update. Looks like lowdog was able to achieve 3000Mhz but with 18cl?!
18/3000 = 0,006

so looks like it's still better now than:

16/2133 = 0,0075 which is my current setup

(but I'm not sure my ram works with 16cl now - xfr profile doesn't work at all)

So what do you think - should I give back my rapijaws and buy ram with the lowest cl? like linked Trident Z or buy corsais vengance led checked by lowdog to run it 3000Mhz/18cl?

PS looks like I will have still 14 days to give back Trident Z ram if I would buy it:D
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at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%
[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url]

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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

well if you had gskill you might be on 3200 at cl15  Tongue

but i thought we were trying to help the op not pee higher up a wall

p.s. on a serious note you should be able to drop your vcore down to 1.30 easily at least on the taichi
mine went easily there (also at llc 2)
p states
9c (3900)
8
27(1,306)

You mean that I should buy mem with cl 15? to achieve 3200Mhz?

What about these rams:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW/

cl is 14
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Originally posted by lowdog lowdog wrote:

I have both X370 Taichi and X370 Fatality Pro Gaming with bios 2.0. 1800X CPU @ 3925MHz with auto volts = 1.35 (default VID) LLC - 2 equals 1.33v load measured at socket with DMM. On both boards I can run Corsair vengeance LED 3000MHz - CMU64GX4M4C3000C15 with 2 x 16GB sticks @ 2933MHz 18-17-17-17-35 with 1.35v and SOC 1.0v LLC -3 no problem


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So you mean you bought 64Gb and you have now 2 x 16 in both motherboards? Had you any problem with 2933 frequency? If no maybe I will also buy these rams...

BTW there is no 16GB (one stick) with 3200Mhz support listed in Asrock qvl ;/


Edited by bapi23 - 29 Apr 2017 at 9:23pm
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