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    Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 10:26pm
Hi.

My conf:
- Ryzen 1700
- RAM F4-3200C15D-16GVK
- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4
- Windows 7 - High Performance Power Plan, AMD Chipset Drivers

I have newest BIOS 3.0
I tried:
- Disable C'n'Q
- Disable C6 Mode
- CPU Stock
- RAM: XMP Profile DDR-2400, 15-15-15-35-50, DRAM Volt. 1.36V

This is very "small" OC I guess. I also tried OC'd cpu with 3.8GHz and 1.35V without oc'ing ram.
Generally I am not capable to overclocking whatever : (

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Edited by justqw - 21 Jul 2017 at 7:05am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 10:37pm
I've tested the K4 with that RAM kit and a Zen 1700, Maximum I got from the CPU is 3.9GHz @ 1.38v and 3066MHz CL14 @ 1.35v. This was done with UEFI 2.5 I haven't tried 3.0 yet.

3.9GHz on any Zen chip is not a small OC it is pushing the lithography of the CPU extremely close to it's current limits. Try 3.7GHz with 1.25v as a starting base. You should also be able to run that kit of G.Skill RAM @ 2933MHz without any issues.

Check to make sure you have the RAM installed in dual channel mode (banks A1+B1 or A2+B2)
Run HCI memtest with enough instances open to fully utilise your RAM and leave it for at least 2 hours, see if it reports any errors.
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What is your cooler? hows your temps? did you try CPU LLC

the max i can do is 3.9ghz @ 1.35v  CPU-LLC 2 , sure i want 4ghz but ill stick with 1.35v to be super safe. 
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AMD RYZEN 7 1700 @ 4Ghz 1.39v
Noctua NH-D15 "blocks top 1x pci-e"
16GB GSkill Ripjaw V F4-3200C16D-16GVRB @ 2933 14-15-15-15 T1 1.365v
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 10:41pm
I think hes going to at least be using the AMD Wraith Spire cooler, which is actually pretty decent so temps shouldn't be too much of a issue.
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My cooler is stock. Temperatures is OK.
I do test with OCCT and Prime. Tests after OC crash after few minutes or instantly (BSOD, with small oc last time system freezed)



Edited by justqw - 18 Jul 2017 at 11:52pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 12:25am
I just noticed in your first post you use Windows 7.

While drivers are supplied for other Windows versions, only Windows 10 is officially supports Ryzen.

This may be related to your failed OC.

What are the Windows crash dumps saying failed during stress testing?

You never said what your "small OC" was. Ryzen 7 processors hit the OC wall at or just below 4GHz, with sane voltages.

No idea what other components are being used, the PSU in particular.
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Originally posted by justqw justqw wrote:

- Windows 7 - 



.....why?
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Windows 10 is not a spying OS anymore? :)

Interesting that Windows7 could stop ability to OC. Is this information confirmed?
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New tests:
- Enable C'n'Q (back to default)
- Enable C6 Mode (back to default)
Disable core performance boost
- Disable Global C states
- CPU Frequency (MHz) - 3700
- CPU Voltage (V) - 1.375
- CPU Vcore Voltage - 1.375
- VDDCR_SOC Voltage - 1.1

..so 3.7 with 1.375 should work without any words (?)
Unfortunately I had BSOD after about 1 minute.

This settings could describe "small oc".
Any suggestions?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MisterJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 7:57am
justqw, please boot into BIOS and hit F9 to Load UEFI Defaults, Save and Reboot.  The next BSOD you get please compress the Minidump folder in the Windows folder and upload it where we have access to it.  If it runs fine, then try an OC and upload the Minidump folder compressed.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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