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    Posted: 21 Nov 2017 at 10:01am
Can someone tell me what RAM I can actually buy to get 128gb running in my x399 Taichi and 1950x threadripper?

This is about the only one I can find that is on QVL:  CMK128GX4M8B3000C16

Is there anything else, or am I stuck with this 128gb Corsair Vengeance ddr4-3000 kit?
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j1mmyfever, if you can wait a while, I think there will be many choices. http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6534&KW=1%2E0%2E0%2E7&PID=39029&title=memory-vendor-comment-on-x399-agesa#39029
We are at 1.0.0.4 now.  This vendor will not even sell it at this time.  There are several people here having success with 128 GB running 2133 MHz.  I think if you want to go faster you will have to wait a while.  G.Skill has some really good looking memory coming but when?  They are showing 3 128 GB kits of fast memory, at least one is for sale at Newegg (~$2k).  I do not know if they are qualified, but G.Skill shows the one QVL for X399 Taichi.  You may need to run them at reduced speed (SPD is 2133) for a while.  Please look around the forum for success.  Enjoy, John.

EDIT: https://www.gskill.com/en/press/view/g-skill-announces-new-ddr4-specifications-for-amd-ryzen%E2%84%A2-threadripper%E2%84%A2-processors


Edited by MisterJ - 21 Nov 2017 at 10:45am
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Originally posted by j1mmyfever j1mmyfever wrote:

Can someone tell me what RAM I can actually buy to get 128gb running in my x399 Taichi and 1950x threadripper?

This is about the only one I can find that is on QVL:  CMK128GX4M8B3000C16

Is there anything else, or am I stuck with this 128gb Corsair Vengeance ddr4-3000 kit?


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232631&cm_re=gskill-_-20-232-631-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232630

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232646&cm_re=gskill-_-20-232-646-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232642&cm_re=gskill-_-20-232-642-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236242&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-IM-PC-_-Memory%20%3E%20Memory%20%28Desktop%20Memory%29-_-N82E16820236242&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4eXPBRCtARIsADvOjY1nJYGo6K5kJ8So0x1WE89mEBI8PzWHtpsLVUECu-TCo14uBg-nNUcaAtP5EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Thanks guys.  It looks like my main issue was I've only been looking for 3000 and 3200 products.  It looks like dropping to 2933 seems to open the options up a lot.  I've also only really been looking at the ASRock Taichi Memory QVL at http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X399%20Taichi/index.us.asp#Support. ; It's hard to trust a newegg listing that just says "X399" in it.

I can wait a while for now.  This system is supposed to be my development lab running Azure Stack private cloud, hence the need for the 128gb of ram.  For now though, its chugging away mining Crypto currency and it's 2x8 ddr4 3200 is doing just fine. (such a waste of a system for mining crypto, but it offsets some of the parts costs).

Appreciate all the info.


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jimmy can i just mention

trusting corsiar ram over gskill ram ,is far more a reach for hope than neweggs adverts for ram kits designed by the most succesful ryzen ram maker

this has been proven since ryzen launch day for nearly 6 months now
the flarex range includes the important samsung b dies and programmed xmp info which is the closest for am4 bios to work with
of course everything is never a 100% sure fire bet ,but the wise money is going to gskill not corsair ram
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Thanks for the tip datonyb.

I haven't build a system in years and am out of my element when it comes to hardware.  I've always just bought corsair in the past, but I'll take your advice and go GSkill.  I read the samsung b die is better, didn't realize the Flare X will all have it.  That's enough for me.

So to summarize what I've seen so far.

-GSkill Flare X is the best bet for various reasons
-The Flare X from the article MisterJ wrote, is this model from 4th link Juanny posted? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232642&cm_re=gskill-_-20-232-642-_-Product

Does that sound right?  $2100 :(
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Originally posted by j1mmyfever j1mmyfever wrote:

Thanks for the tip datonyb.

I haven't build a system in years and am out of my element when it comes to hardware.  I've always just bought corsair in the past, but I'll take your advice and go GSkill.  I read the samsung b die is better, didn't realize the Flare X will all have it.  That's enough for me.

So to summarize what I've seen so far.

-GSkill Flare X is the best bet for various reasons
-The Flare X from the article MisterJ wrote, is this model from 4th link Juanny posted? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232642&cm_re=gskill-_-20-232-642-_-Product

Does that sound right?  $2100 :(


yes flare x ram is very expensive but worth the cost due to its tight timings and reliability. The kit I got was the 64gb cas 14 for a little over 1k https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232644 and it booted right up the first time at safe jedec timing of 2133 then when I applied the pre programmed XMP it runs at 2933. When I can get more dough Ill be getting another 64gb kit to max out at 128gb. Havent tried to oc the ram yet just to verify that the build is running stable but im fairly sure that it will oc to 3066 based on many posts ive seen

EDIT: btw the 64gb kit that  I have is samsung b-die based on thaiphoon software=ryzen and threadripper LOVES B-die


Edited by JUANNY - 22 Nov 2017 at 12:25am
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j1mmyfever, please do not take datony's statement too literally.  I am a strong believer in G.Skill (only) and have FlareX in my current machine waiting for a latter BIOS/AGESA.  It has Hynix chips not Samsung.  The memory I pointed to (announcement and selling) are Threadripper exclusive and I think they are all Samsung B-die.  There is a free program you can use to see all the information in the SPD memory - Taiphoon, here: http://www.softnology.biz/files.html
You can even burn new values if you buy a paid version.
datonyb is my go to guy for memory and can probably tell you which memory has Samsung B-dies, but G.Skill is very responsive and have always answered my questions about what chips are in what product.  I suspect all TR exclusive sticks are B-dies, but could be wrong.  Enjoy, John.
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Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

j1mmyfever, please do not take datony's statement too literally.  I am a strong believer in G.Skill (only) and have FlareX in my current machine waiting for a latter BIOS/AGESA.  It has Hynix chips not Samsung.  The memory I pointed to (announcement and selling) are Threadripper exclusive and I think they are all Samsung B-die.  There is a free program you can use to see all the information in the SPD memory - Taiphoon, here: http://www.softnology.biz/files.html
You can even burn new values if you buy a paid version.
datonyb is my go to guy for memory and can probably tell you which memory has Samsung B-dies, but G.Skill is very responsive and have always answered my questions about what chips are in what product.  I suspect all TR exclusive sticks are B-dies, but could be wrong.  Enjoy, John.


yes you're right-in gskills x399 product pages they do specify that they are using samsung b-die in all their threadripper branded memory kits which makes perfect sense based on Ryzens preference in that chip
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Thanks guys, and noted on your advice MisterJ.  Your article on the gskill stuff does state it all 100% samsung b-die.  I've learned enough from crypto mining that samsung b-die beats everything typically.  That's enough for me to pursue it.

It looks like Flare X is the leader right now.  Makes me sad looking at the price though lol.  I doubt any of this stuff is going to get marked down for Black Friday either.  I'm going to wait over the weekend for any possible price change then pull the trigger I think.

Thanks again everyone.
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