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Thenightstalker
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datonyb
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all settings i suggested are not in HEX my bios dosnt need to convert to hex thankfully, unless im setting p states
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Solace50
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@datonyb
did you ever have issues with warmboots, not just coldboots, I have a similar issue but only on warmboots (I suspect the ram timings are not ideal for ryzen). The dimms run at stock just fine for 2133 mhz, but any manual settings or using XMP 2.0 which is 2800mhz seems to cause the machine to not post on a warm reboot. |
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Thenightstalker
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OK guys ... I took some time last night and tried all the stuff you said. Short version: didn't work Everything was very promising, I felt like "that's gona be it, now it will work" but then. But ok, here's what I did. First I checked my settings and my trc was already higher than your suggestd value. But I set the values you gave me just to be sure. When I came to trfc I was confused, my board offers 3 different trfc settings (trfc, trfc2 and trfc4) so I assumed you where talking about the first one. But then again confusion, my board need the values set in HEX (which is ridiculous btw.) but converting 256 to HEX gives me 100 but the auto value was 138, so I thought lowering the value would be even worse!? However, I tried all the settings you told me and again, Windows and everything was OK. But after turning of and wait for the caps to run empty it won't boot again. Same issue. I took another round of research on the web and found a tool from overclockers.com (ryzen ram calculator) and gave it a shot. I took the "save values" to calculate upon my XMP settings and it sounded plausible. I had to convert all the values in HEX and it was confusing. For the basic timings (14/14/14/14) you have values in the bios you can chose, of course in HEX, it should be 14 on each, so 14 > HEX = E ok but in the settings I have 0Eh (ok that's 14 ...) but in the next one there's 0xE (no E or 0Eh) but that's also 14 but why?! WHY can't they just give us a damn DECIMAL input!? So assuming that I didn't mess up any of these dec to hex coversions I set ALL the DRAM settings according to the results of the calculator and gave it a try. Again everything ran fine, I played like an hour AC Origins which was running nice on medium 900p btw. and then simulated a cold boot again and ... no post. 5 retries, back to 2133 MHz. This can't just be unstable OC, there's no way. Maybe you can call it that if the system can't boot but if it's otherwise stable why should I call these instable settings... btw. I also set command rate and all the stuff you told me and I had my VDIMM at 1.4 V all the time. I think there's a problem or bug in the uefi that causes this. Or can I do any other test to see if the settings are stable under normal conditions, which is where it counts, not in the 5 seconds where the uefi boots up... dang it |
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datonyb
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ive had warm boot issue once i think , its usually the cold boot where we have fun |
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@ night stalker
i too use the ryzen ram calculator its been a blessing to me but ive also learnt to enter every single suggestion and setting even these cad bus block etc cldo voltages everything it may well be a bios issue not having enough brains to iron out the flaws and issues as it has to make/try some settings itself based on what your xmp asks for or you manually enter not trying to rub salt in the wound but i got 3433 cl14 first try with the new tridentz 3866 ram this weekend on mine , |
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I can also confirm this fix works. Every 5 to 10 cold boot cycles, my family?�s AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac also would get stuck at boot. Yet the Samsung B-Die memory also checked out as 100% stable in MemTest86 and they were no issues once in the OS even in gaming. In the BIOS, going to Advanced->ACPI Configuration and enabling ACPI HPET Table (instead of the default of ?�Auto?? fixes the issue. I am on BIOS 4.51 with a Ryzen 5 2400G and G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GTZ RAM.
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Zwu
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i had several issues aswell,
but since i went back to bios version 3.2 i have: a stable pstate oc to 3.95 ghz on 1.37v stable 3200mhz on my gskill gflaresX cl14 no issues at all for every bios version after 3.2 made things worse in one way or another so basically 7 months without enhancements if id want to upgrade my cpu to next gen i'd propably b phucked on this board |
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Thenightstalker
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And since I'm using a 2400G, which requires at least 3.40 I'm lost. That's why the title still says > WILL THEY EVER FIX IT. Yesterday I tried all the settings from the DRAM calc tool, some of them I just don't have in my uefi but all I had I entered. The result was a not even warm booting system. I went back to basic settings + APCI but you geuessed it, it didn't work. I don't share the opinion that these are minor issues, even the HEX input is a major issue in my opinion, why? I tell you why, this is a 100 bucks Fatal1ty line board which is clearly meant for enthusiasts, gamers and overclockers! If you do that you should give them the features they need AND it should run like a charm. This thing is FAR away from beeing what the Fatal1ty branding suggests.... I understand that ASRock has little to no influence on what AMD / AGESA is doing but in that case they need to inform customers and at least give a statement on if / how / when they will fix this thing. They just miss their opportunity in the ITX segment, the AB350 ITX would be the only REALY useful AM4 ITX solution right now if it only would work and let you OC comfortable and stable. I had many boards and systems but I never had such a trouble. Edited by Thenightstalker - 17 Apr 2018 at 7:31pm |
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Brandon
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