TaiChi x570 bios issue with RAM

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   I recently built a new AM4 computer and here is the build info

ASRock Tai Chi x570 MB
Ryzen 3900X
HyperX 4000mhz ram set under XMP 2 @ 3600Mhz (on QML as approved)
Samsung SM961 M.2
WD Black M.2
Gigabyte 2070 Super GPU
Windows 10 Pro-fresh install and updated to current.

I had zero issues with build and first startup etc, however, when I tried to flash bios to 1.60 from 1.10 which was ship bios, it became unstable using the same settings. I have to clock back to 3200Mhz for it to remain stable or it just keeps rebooting when it tries to load windows. It is not giving me any errors in bootlog. I am using straight default bios settings, only changing ram to the XMP profile to get to 3600Mhz and setting my fans more aggressively, absolutely no other bios changes. I am not having temp issues and hold at 52 degrees on boot.
Any thoughts? I understand this is a new bios and a whole new line, but maybe someone else is having similar issues and found a fix other than flashing back to 1.10 like I did. 

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Hollywood703 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19 Jul 2019 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hollywood703 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TaiChi x570 bios issue with RAM Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 12:02pm
	I recently built a new AM4 computer and here is the build info ASRock Tai Chi x570 MB Ryzen 3900X HyperX 4000mhz ram set under XMP 2 @ 3600Mhz (on QML as approved) Samsung SM961 M.2 WD Black M.2 Gigabyte 2070 Super GPU Windows 10 Pro-fresh install and updated to current. I had zero issues with build and first startup etc, however, when I tried to flash bios to 1.60 from 1.10 which was ship bios, it became unstable using the same settings. I have to clock back to 3200Mhz for it to remain stable or it just keeps rebooting when it tries to load windows. It is not giving me any errors in bootlog. I am using straight default bios settings, only changing ram to the XMP profile to get to 3600Mhz and setting my fans more aggressively, absolutely no other bios changes. I am not having temp issues and hold at 52 degrees on boot. Any thoughts? I understand this is a new bios and a whole new line, but maybe someone else is having similar issues and found a fix other than flashing back to 1.10 like I did.

Xaltar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 27548	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xaltar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 10:40pm
	That's early adoption for you. In many cases an update will go backwards for some and forwards for others, it tends to take a while before everyone sees forward motion. If you are stable with 1.10 then I would stick to it for about a month and check for updates again then. Even then however, I tend to avoid updating unless I have an issue. Enjoy the new build


foxx1337 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19 Jul 2019 Location: Munich Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote foxx1337 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 11:55pm
	Xaltar is right on this one. Don't fix something that works. But, proving that something doesn't work is pretty much like proving that something doesn't exist - not really tenable through the means of logic and reasoning. Just because you don't see it crashing it doesn't mean it's fully stable even with 1.10. Pretty certain things got more agressive from the BIOS' perspective in newer versions too. Pump the DDR voltage just 1 or 2 steps from its XMP default and make sure the GearDown mode is activated (it's on the chipset features page under IMC - integrated memory controller tab). In the GearDown manual they (the "Industry") say that it's designed for better RAM compatibility above 3200 MHz.
	Ryzen 3900X, Taichi X570

Cecil_Montgomery Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19 Jul 2019 Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cecil_Montgomery Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 2019 at 8:30am
	I had the same issue with approved corsair 3600 ram. Unlike the others saying "that's early adoption for you" or "don't fix something that works" I will say this: AMD made a big deal about improving CPU performance with later BIOS updates, so I don't blame you for updating it. I also don't blame you for expecting memory on their approved list to work after a bios update. I personally back-stepped through the BIOS revisions until i found one that let the system boot with XMP enabled. For me, it was 1.21. I still have mssive issues with precision boost 2 not actually boosting worth a damn, so I've settiled on a manual all-core overclock and bios 1.21 with XMP ram profiles. Then I'll wait a few months and see if there's a bios revision that works better. I believe there may be a few bugs to iron out in all new releases, but this ASROCK board is not really helping things with it's BIOS....

Hollywood703 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19 Jul 2019 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hollywood703 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 4:40pm
	I came from a MSI motherboard, and although it was 7 years old, it seemed to be layed out better than the asrock version. I watched a bunch of videos now and see that ASROCK's MB config is very basic and old school compared to a lot of other manufacturers. I hope they consider that in their next update.