Ryzen 3000 series support

This is fuking nuts. Other motherboard producers update bios for all motherboards but not ASRock. FK you ASRock!

May I ask anyone when will BIOS Agesa 1003 ABBA will be released for B450 boards,
in this case, mine is B450M-PRO4. But ASRock just provides an update of Agesa 1003abba only for X570 boards, what happens to the rest of the boards, that BIOS, as we all know, has the FIX for boost clock issues on 3000 series CPUs.
Does anyone have information on this one?

SKYPREDA7OR wrote: May I ask anyone when will BIOS Agesa 1003 ABBA will be released for B450 boards, in this case, mine is B450M-PRO4. But ASRock just provides an update of Agesa 1003abba only for X570 boards, what happens to the rest of the boards, that BIOS, as we all know, has the FIX for boost clock issues on 3000 series CPUs. Does anyone have information on this one?

As far as I have seen, the ABBA update only addressed the boost clock "issue". I
put the word issue in quotes because it doesn't really change performance to any
extent worth being stressed out over. On my X570 Taichi my Cinebench scores
actually went down by a few points (less than 1%). Everyone has been clamoring
about this wonder update that is going to net them huge performance gains but the
reality is that is just makes the CPU hit it's rated boost clock, typically about
a 25 - 50mhz bump up from previous versions. IMO, its likely AMD was just afraid
of lawsuits so made sure the clocks are hit so no one can claim false
advertising.

I get it, it is frustrating waiting on updates, especially if you are waiting
for fixes. The problem with BIOS updates is that it's almost impossible to give
a set time-frame. More than half the time you might be able to predict when an
update will be ready but if you outright claim say "in 2 weeks" and then hit a
hurdle that delays things and can't hit that deadline there is a huge uproar,
far more than if you just say nothing. Then haul ass to try and get it out ASAP.

ASRock like all manufacturers is 2 things, the products and those that work on
them and then the business. On the business side you have to be careful not to
make promises you may not be able to keep. It sucks but that's just how things
are. I would love to see more transparency in the industry but I don't think it
will ever happen.

Imagine manufacturers all provided deadline information to the public, what do
you think they will do to compete with each other? Brand A claims a date 2
weeks from now, Brand B is larger and has more resources so they throw some
money and staff at it so they can claim 1 week then Brand C, afraid of losing
market share, force all their support staff to work overtime and claim 5 days
only to launch a rushed, buggy and unfinished update that causes problems. Even
without set dates we already see a race to release updates.

As for the Taichi Ultimate updates coming out so long after the non Ultimate
ones, I think that is likely because many more non Ultimate boards are in
circulation. Again, business, rather have the minority complain than the
majority. This is especially true if the higher profit from a flagship is not
outweighed by bulk profit from lower margin boards.

I know this doesn't really help anyone waiting on updates but a bit of
understanding into how these things work never goes amiss.

Edited by Xaltar - 03 Oct 2019 at 2:54pm

There is the problem right there, this is a community forum, not Tech Support.
Tech Support stop in here and make the occasional post but ASRock does not use
the forum as an outlet for information.

I communicate what information I am able to obtain through my contacts but I
only get told so much. I would like to see the forums grow and become better
utilized for such things. All I can do for now however is keep sharing what I
can and try to help people wherever possible. Tech Support posts here a lot
more frequently than they used to. Things are evolving and growing.

As for flagship boards, I hear you. It isn't a problem on the intel side as
they tend to become obsolete as soon as the socket changes for a new generation
but with AMD, I think the longer support cycle has thrown a wrench in the
works. I personally wouldn't buy a flagship unless it has a feature that I need
that other models do not, so the 10gb/s LAN on the Taichi Ultimate for example.
I believe at the time the Ultimate launched the price difference between it and
the standard Taichi was less than the cost of an add in 10gb/s LAN controller.
ASRock's flagships tend to be of the "look what we can do" variety with a focus
on adding incredible features and attempting to do something no one else is.
It's what attracted me to the brand. It is a double edged sword however.

You can always try sending a support ticket. I find ASRock to be quite helpful
in their responses and I frequently test their Support Ticket system
(anonymously). Typically I get a response within days of submitting a ticket.

Edited by Xaltar - 03 Oct 2019 at 3:17pm