BIOS Updates, Urgent note, Please read.

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   As I am sure most of you know by now, Ryzen 3000 has launched and there are BIOS updates available to support it. As with second gen Ryzen launch I am seeing a lot of first and second gen Ryzen users updating to the latest BIOS and having issues with their systems.

Please guys, if you are not upgrading to Ryzen 3000 DO NOT UPDATE your BIOS at this early stage. In a few months all these teething issues should be resolved and you can try out the latest BIOS version if that is of interest to you. Generally speaking, if your system is working as intended and you do not have issues with the BIOS then don't update. Ryzen in particular is a fickle beast that is prone to issues from one BIOS version to the next.

Most of the changes in the new updates are explicitly to add Ryzen 3000 support and will have absolutely no benefit to first and second gen Ryzen systems.

This advice will likely apply for all future Ryzen launches and even to intel systems when a new CPU range is launched on an existing socket.

Edited by Xaltar - 16 Sep 2022 at 5:17am

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Xaltar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 24623	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xaltar Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Topic: BIOS Updates, Urgent note, Please read. Posted: 04 Aug 2019 at 1:31pm
	As I am sure most of you know by now, Ryzen 3000 has launched and there are BIOS updates available to support it. As with second gen Ryzen launch I am seeing a lot of first and second gen Ryzen users updating to the latest BIOS and having issues with their systems. Please guys, if you are not upgrading to Ryzen 3000 DO NOT UPDATE your BIOS at this early stage. In a few months all these teething issues should be resolved and you can try out the latest BIOS version if that is of interest to you. Generally speaking, if your system is working as intended and you do not have issues with the BIOS then don't update. Ryzen in particular is a fickle beast that is prone to issues from one BIOS version to the next. Most of the changes in the new updates are explicitly to add Ryzen 3000 support and will have absolutely no benefit to first and second gen Ryzen systems. This advice will likely apply for all future Ryzen launches and even to intel systems when a new CPU range is launched on an existing socket. Edited by Xaltar - 16 Sep 2022 at 5:17am


T1125P Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2018 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 802	Post Options Post Reply Quote T1125P Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 12:20pm
	I agree. I only updated to BIOS 3.40 with my 2700x and have no issues at all. I did this for when I'm ready to buy my 3700x (no more 3900x I don't need it). With 3.40 I can just put the 3700x in and upgrade again to a more stable BIOS. I'm in no rush to buy a 3700x I will most likely buy one toward the end of Sept early Oct when all issues should be ironed out.
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Hexcate Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hexcate Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 11:38am
	The Ryzen 3k bios(5.50) for the X370 Killer SLI/AC is missing the LLC settings. Because of this my overclock is no longer stable. Which is pretty annoying as I require every bit of performance as possible from my rig for work. The difference between 3.7GHz and 4.0GHz on my Ryzen 7 1700 is massive in my workloads. Hopefully they'll add it back as that's kind of an important part of having a stable overclock on any CPU. I updated even though I don't have a ryzen 3k processor because of the ability to OC the FSB Therefore allowing better OC especially with single core. My MoBo was perfect with the 5.40 BIOS. Now i'm stuck on 5.50 after RMAing my board for a power delivery issue.

Hexcate Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hexcate Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 12:39pm
	Since I can't find an edit button for my previous post. My RGB application also refuses to start even on clean install. Didn't have that issue with 5.4. RGB control works fine from within the BIOS though.

srdjan1995 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 Jan 2018 Status: Offline Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote srdjan1995 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 7:52am
	Having my R3 1200 @ 4GHz using latest bios (6.0) on AB350 Pro4, and it's all working great here. Only thing I couldn't OC is my RAM, but that's because RAM i have is not the one for overclocking, and I think it's always better to just get a faster RAM, instead of OC'ing it. I only tried to OC my RAM, never intended to keep it OC'ed. But anyways, it works great with R3 1200. I do plan on getting Ryzen 3000 series cpu as soon as I can.

dbHRGdb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 28 Aug 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote dbHRGdb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 7:42pm
	Hi There all, -posted this in an older forum page, but i hope it helps- I'd like to report, if still relative to anyone, that I did get my new R5-3600x running nice and normal using bios 5.81 on my Asrock b350 Fata1ity itx/ac FINALLY after days of tinkering with Corsair and Ballistics kits and posted bioses up to 6.0. To no avail even though with 1st gen Ryzen 1600, 1700 and 2400G had no probs with any reasonable setting or over clocks. Then I got a 16G kit of G-Skills 3200C16D-16GSXKB-16-18-18-38 from a friend in exchange for my Ballisticts kit. Soon after I managed to get into the bios after days of tinkering between my R5-1600 and bios' 4.70, 5.30, 5.70, and 6.0 which none of let me enter the bios with my usual AMD fore mentioned 3000 Corsair and 3200 Ballistics. Then I tried the G-Skills and got into bios 5.70 more often during boot cycles which I had let run over and over till it stopped cycling w/ just fans were full throttle and try again changing bios setting until i got less and less cycles between successful bios screens. what I realized is, Gen 1 boards or Gen 3 Ryzen 5 or the combo needs 1.4v on memory, memory set to 3000mhz because max Infinity Fabric on Gen 1 boards is 1500 max and it defaulted here setting different mem and voltage though all my attempts at successful boots. Also I cant restart the board, must be fully shut down to enable a stable boot that is and has been stable through all my test. Sometimes, i still get a boot cycle but only 1-3 times max and retain all setting as default in bios 5.81 (the ONLY bios that works for me WITH THESE G-SKILLS) Also, it improved further when after enabling XMP and setting mem down to 3000 with 1.4v, I then tightened timings from the stock 16-18-18-38 down to 14-16-16-34 and now my system is pretty consistent in all my benches and games, peppier and higher scores. eg. Cinebench before tightening was 1075 score :( to 1635 :) So, I hope this is helpful for someone out there. My games no longer experience the stuttering they once were with my R5-1600 being bottle necked. Now a Happy Camper here and new life out of my 1080ti and work bench!
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Hexcate Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hexcate Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 2019 at 9:08am
	Without LLC there's severe vdroop on vcore. Making any type of overclocking extremely difficult. My CPU is seeing a minimum 10% reduction in performance due to this. Pictures of vdroop and performance drop included here [URL=https://imgur.com/a/MFVhkSt]https://imgur.com/a/MFVhkSt[/URL] This wouldn't even be a problem if I could roll back, but taking away the ability to downgrade the BIOS then dropping performance by a large margin is nuts.
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Go6s Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 Sep 2019 Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Go6s Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 12:19am
	Do you have troubles accessing the bios on chipset b450 with Ryzen 2xxx series ? I have the p2.30 bios (not UEFI becase of MBR partition) and I can't access the bios ! It freezes when I push any button at start.

rpmrg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 Jul 2017 Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote rpmrg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 6:06am
	You should always run Ryzen in UEFI mode and not old bios.

on2wheels Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 02 Nov 2019 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote on2wheels Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2019 at 9:54am
	What about when they pull a BIOS that we've already installed? They removed the 1.72 for the x570 Phantom Gaming 4, but I flashed it the day it came out, Oct 17th, now it's gone and a new beta version went up. How do I find out why it was pulled?