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    Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 2:47am
Hello, I own the H170 performance/hyper and when i tried to oc i didn't find the choice ''DDR4 non z oc''
why don't I have this in my bios.

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Originally posted by alexaspi alexaspi wrote:

Hello, I own the H170 performance/hyper and when i tried to oc i didn't find the choice ''DDR4 non z oc''
why don't I have this in my bios.

thank you.


The information about DDR4 Non-Z OC in your board's overview is this:

With ASRock's DDR4 Non-Z OC users may overclock the memory of H170/Q170/B150/H110/C232 models using certain memory sticks, such as Kingston or Samsung memory DIMMs.

Note that is states that you may OC the memory of "... certain memory sticks, such as Kingston or Samsung memory DIMMs.". That means that it may not work with all models of memory.

What model of DDR4 memory are you using?

Also, we find this note in your board's Memory Support List:

Note6: The system needs discrete VGA card to support DDR4-2133+

That means if you are using the Intel iGPU, you could not operate your memory above a speed of 2133. The maximum DDR4 memory speed for Intel Skylake processors is 2133, so DDR4 Non-Z OC would operate the memory at a higher speed than 2133, and require the use of a video card.

Which UEFI/BIOS version do you have in your board?

There is also another possible reason why the DDR4 Non-Z OC feature is not available. The description for the 1.30 UEFI/BIOS version contains this:

Remove Sky OC function.

ASRock at one time tried to add a CPU over clocking feature to many of the Intel 100 series chipset boards, like your H170. That feature was called Sky OC.

Intel only allows over clocking on their 'Z' chipset boards, like the Z170, Z270, etc. Intel forced ASRock to remove the Sky OC feature from all the non-Z chipset boards. Not only was the feature removed, but Intel added a new CPU microcode to the UEFI/BIOS file that does not allow the Sky OC feature to work, even if the UEFI/BIOS options to OC were available.

Sorry to say, three possible reasons why you don't have the DDR4 Non-Z OC feature in your UEFI/BIOS.
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thanks for your reply.
i have 2X ram G.SKILL F4-2800C17S-8GVR 8GB DDR4 2800MHZ RIPJAWS V =16GB 
and i have the stock bios  version P1.2
cpu i5 6400 
ram in slots A2-B2
and my vga is GTX 1060 3GB (PALIT)
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Hello there, i happen to have the same motherboard,
ddr non z oc appears in the bios and has the option such as comfort sport or sport +
https://s18.postimg.org/4wms9c6ll/image.jpg
i manage to get mine trident z 2x8 ram to 2800 (their rated speed) but only using the sport plus option otherwise my manual ddr4 overclock wasn't stable after 2400mhz
in the OP motherboard ( a friend of mine) this option doesn't even exist in the bios let alone configure it, its not even in gray , unclickable letters, it simply isn't there.... strange
skyOC is turned on and the cpu overclocks like a charm,
we have check the ram and it seems to be samsung die and compatible, we use the same stock bios 1.2  and of course we use a gpu ,,,,


I cannot find any reasonable explanation why his bios doesn't not have that option while mine exactly same motherboard same bios has ....
maybe its broken i don't know...
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The only explanation I can give you is exactly what the specifications state. Only certain models of memory can be used the the Non-Z DDR4 OC.

Another possibility is the CPU microcode update from Intel that stops the over clocking features on non-Z chipset boards, was also distributed for Intel by Microsoft in a Windows update. I don't know which Windows update that was, so you would need to search for it and check if your Windows installation has that particular Windows update installed. Once installed, removing the update will not also remove the CPU microcode, or going back to a previous Windows Restore point.
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;i take the cpu at 4.4ghz but i can't oc the ram........
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DDR4 Non Z OC only works on certain memory modules. Even then, it only tightens timings, it does not actually overclock the memory frequency from what I have seen on my own H170 Performance/Hyper. That said I only tried it once. It's a great board but memory overclocking does not work on most RAM kits. If I remember correctly there were only a handful of compatible RAM modules it works with. Once intel forced ASRock and other manufacturers to disable OCing on non Z boards this feature was never updated again.

Bare in mind that these boards are not meant to be able to OC at all, any OC functionality is outside of recommended specs for the platform.




Edited by Xaltar - 05 Aug 2017 at 12:59am
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Well we manage to fix the issue, it has nothing to do with micro code or bios, what so ever, we both run windows 10 and there is no microcode yet to block our skyOC
the problem was with the 4th slot, which while recognize the ram module , wont make "ddr4 non z oc" happen, we moved the ram to 1st and 3rth slot and it works at 2800 rated speed, like a charm.
Thanks for your help nevertheless
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