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 Posted: 10 Oct 2016 at 1:20pm |
Glad you found the problem! But I am curious about a few things, if you care to discuss this. To review, you tested on your previous board, the Z170 Pro4s, correct? THe Z170 Pro4S board seems to have a defective PCIe x16 slot. Ignoring that possibility for now... You said it was the PCIE1 slot, when used with your video card, caused the BSODs, and using the PCIE4 slot for the video card resulted in no crashing or BSODs. Forgive my (ex-) programmer mindset, where everything must be perfection. The first PCIe x16 slot is actually the PCIE2 slot. The PCIE1 slot is a PCIe 3.0 x1 slot, that you did not use with the video card, correct? You said you used the PCIE4 slot of the Pro4S, without any BSODs. Are you aware that the PCIE4 slot, while it is x16 physically, is an x4 slot electrically. That is, it is only connected to four PCIe 3.0 lanes, instead of the 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes connected to the PCIE2 slot. You could get reduced performance using the PCIE4 slot, although the Pro4S board may not be welcome in your home anymore, or relegated to another task.  You mentioned reorienting the PSU and mother board "... for less heat and better airflow." I don't know how you could reorient a mother board, but did you ever monitor system temperatures while gaming? That is, the CPU and GPU temperature? Also, the voltage regulator/power supply circuitry for the CPU is not cooled as well (small heat sink, only one heat sink) compared to your new Extreme7+. Depending upon the cooling ability of the fans mounted in your PC case, you might have experienced over heating of the CPU power circuitry. Video cards can emit much of their waste heat into the PC case. The video card in the PCIE2 slot is very close to the CPU power circuitry, and depending upon the CPU cooler you use, and its fan speed configuration and orientation, over heating of those components is possible. Even when the CPU is not under a full load, which is typical while gaming. The potential clue about that is, with the video card in the PCIE4 slot, twice as far away from the CPU power circuitry as it was in the PCIE2 slot, the problem seems to no longer exist. That extra space between the video card and that circuitry may have made the difference, plus your recent change for improved cooling. Plus the video card was running at x4, not x16. That your problem only began recently could be caused by dust accumulation inside the PC, on fans, the CPU cooler, mother board, and in the video card itself. While you were chasing the BSODs with the error messages they gave, the actual cause could have been heat related, including the video card itself over heating. Just something to consider |
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 9:16pm |
Hey, Parsec! Sorry I wasn't able to reply to your post right away. I was on vacation at Disneyworld ^.^ As for your PCIE slot question, I can't remember right now, but the PCIE slot closest to the CPU caused a lot of BSOD crashes. So, I moved the GPU to the bottom PCIE slot, further away from the CPU and it didn't crash with BSOD for 5 hours. I thought I had solved it. Unfortunately, I was wrong. Last night, I played some WoW for approximately 30 minutes, and it crashed with 3 BSOD, one after each automatic restart. These are the errors: - NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM - CRITICAL_STRUCTURE_CORRUPTION - MEMORY_MANAGEMENT When I reoriented the motherboard, I think I meant to say that I rotated the case on its side, so the motherboard would be standing vertically instead of laying flat horizontally. This actually allowed better airflow including 2 new fans that blow cold air in and blows hot air out. The PSU is still on the bottom but the fan built in the PSU is now able to blow air sideways ( I think that is better than downward as it was originally). No, I wasn't able to monitor system temperatures while gaming. I am still looking for a temperature reader that can sit on the desktop, but I haven't found one. If you have one, I am open to it :) I also thought that the temperature would play a big role, but knowing that Thermaltake V21 cases, and other small cases would be okay with gaming. But it is a bit difficult and different to compare since I went from a Standard size to Micro ITX size. But I agree that with a standard size and the Extreme+7, the components are not so close together and the CPU has more than 1 heat sink. I ran a stress test on the CPU, and it didn't crash at all. But would that be equivalent to me playing WoW on ultra settings? I, too, am curious about this issue. It is driving me crazy! **EDIT** I wonder if it really is the motherboard failing that is causing all of this random BSOD's. I'm debating whether I should purchase a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Processor cooler. Because I really can't confirm it is totally the motherboard. Maybe the motherboard is okay, but its an overheating issue.... Just to add... the temperature inside my apartment ranges from 73 to 79 degrees F. It hardly gets to 79F; lately it has been a max of 76F. Maybe this might contribute to the random BSOD if heat is provoking the issue. Edited by Pandahugs - 17 Oct 2016 at 10:58pm |
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Posted: 19 Oct 2016 at 3:28am |
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I'll be stress testing my GPU with FurMark/FireStrike, the CPU, using Prime95, and Memtest86 as well to see if I can crash my computer on command every time. Hopefully this will help narrow down and pin point the main culprit.
I also monitored the temperatures of my GPU, CPU, and Motherboard. They all seem to be in stable ranges. nothing crazy over 65C on full load. and ~33C idle. |
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