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Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 2:14pm

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Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 4:38am

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How about i3 4170 + RX 460? would it slightly bottleneck? and its the i3 a decent CPU for my system? Most of the time I use my PC for gaming.

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Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 5:05am

Dual cores can be tricky. Some games don't fare well on them but most do OK on the i3 because they are hyperthreaded so we see 2 cores/4 threads but even then some take an FPS hit. An HT thread is about 30% of the performance of a real core (at best) so what we see is an i3 performing roughly 50 - 60% faster than a non hyperthreaded dual core in most usage scenarios but when both the cores are fully loaded that difference quickly evaporates to about 10 - 15%.

In most games however the i3 is quite capable and shouldn't bottleneck the RX 460 much, if at all. The problems start with games like GTA 5 that are exceedingly CPU heavy and thrive on higher core counts. What's worse is that with Ryzen becoming available tomorrow and 6 core 12 thread variants coming a little later in the year we are going to see a LOT more games taking advantage of higher core counts which could see the i3 go the way of the pentium and other dual cores (inadequate).

Honestly, I would not recommend a dual core to anyone at this juncture unless it was for an ultra budget build in which case I would suggest an H110 motherboard (with a Kaby Lake supporting BIOS) and a hyperthreaded Kaby Lake pentium. This combo would be cheap, offer almost identical performance to Haswell i3s and be upgradable to an i5 or i7 later on.

So to answer your question:

No, don't waste your money on the i3, you will regret it. You will be by far better off with a lower clocked i5. Now if you are willing to wait and save a little longer we should see Ryzen 4 and 6 core parts at some point this year as well as price drops from intel when that happens. If you need something now do yourself a favor and save a little more to get an i5.

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Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 5:13am

As I side note, I know where you are coming from. Upgrading is expensive, especially on a budget. When I built my Haswell system I was short on funds and had to make some very tough choices with my hardware, in the end I made the terrible mistake of going with a Pentium G3258 thinking I could overclock it to better than i3 performance. That turned out to be true, at 4.3ghz my little pentium anniversary kicked some serious i3 bottom but unfortunately a slew of new games also came out around that time that simply would not even run on a dual core, as in wouldn't even load.... i3s worked fine with their 4 threads but not my dual core, non hyperthreaded little pentium. I got about a month of satisfaction out of it before I sorely regretted wasting money on a redundant part.

Moral of the story, save up a little longer and don't cheap out on core components (including PSU). It is way better to be stuck with a piece of old junk for a month longer while you save up than have wasted money on another piece of junk that will disappoint you in less than 6 months.