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Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

how are you not getting this if you run something like prime95 on all cores it will never go below base clock. running geekbench firestrike or whatnot will have parts when it doesnt stress the cpu thus cnq will be in effect be it for a split sec or in between the test. CNQ & boost clocks are updated in split second

"cool and quiet" when enabled will dip the clock when the core isnt under load which is stated by Ray62 if you dont want it to dip either disable CNQ or set "processor power management> mininum processor state" to 100% under power options in windows or set it to performance as stated by ray62



Because it likely wont work on this motherboard. Pbo and xfr doesnt work so why would cnq work?
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Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

how are you not getting this if you run something like prime95 on all cores it will never go below base clock. running geekbench firestrike or whatnot will have parts when it doesnt stress the cpu thus cnq will be in effect be it for a split sec or in between the test. CNQ & boost clocks are updated in split second

"cool and quiet" when enabled will dip the clock when the core isnt under load which is stated by Ray62 if you dont want it to dip either disable CNQ or set "processor power management> mininum processor state" to 100% under power options in windows or set it to performance as stated by ray62


changed the ryzen powerplan minimum processor percentage to 100% and results are exactly the same.
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Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

how are you not getting this if you run something like prime95 on all cores it will never go below base clock. running geekbench firestrike or whatnot will have parts when it doesnt stress the cpu thus cnq will be in effect be it for a split sec or in between the test. CNQ & boost clocks are updated in split second

"cool and quiet" when enabled will dip the clock when the core isnt under load which is stated by Ray62 if you dont want it to dip either disable CNQ or set "processor power management> mininum processor state" to 100% under power options in windows or set it to performance as stated by ray62


Not finding any Cool&Quiet setting in the bios either..
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Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

how are you not getting this


Are you familiar with an x570 Taichi or ryzen3000 series cpu? I have yet to find a cool&quiet setting in the bios..

Yea my x370 professional gaming had it.. I dont think the x570 Taichi has it, or if it does it must be buried in the bios somewhere because I sure as hell dont see it and cant find it....
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Originally posted by Ray62 Ray62 wrote:

Use HWInfo instead of HWMonitor!

Make your own powerplan based on Ryzen balanced powerplan
-> Performance, to see the base frequency when CPU is in idle state

Make a testrun with this powerplan, one with the Ryzen balanced and compare.



created the powerplan, the minimum processor state set at 98, 99, and 100%.. Tested all three sitting idle it will sit at 3.875ghz on all cores for a little, then it will drop about half the cores to 3.5ghz, and the other cores go to like 4.275ghz.. Then it repeats continuously.. changing the min processor state does nothing..

Running the benchmarks acts the same as it did, dropping to 3.5ghz like in the video..
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I am running CPU_Z, windows energy options open, just marking AMD Ryzen Balanced or Performance and core speed jumps between low idle clock or base frequency (with some random spikes to highest boost clock)

I suggest to save your current bios settings, load bios defaults, do not change anything related to the CPU, and retry that test.

Cool&Quiet disappeared in the bios versions since supporting Zen2 even for some boards from other vendors.
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Originally posted by Ray62 Ray62 wrote:

I am running CPU_Z, windows energy options open, just marking AMD Ryzen Balanced or Performance and core speed jumps between low idle clock or base frequency (with some random spikes to highest boost clock)

I suggest to save your current bios settings, load bios defaults, do not change anything related to the CPU, and retry that test.

Cool&Quiet disappeared in the bios versions since supporting Zen2 even for some boards from other vendors.
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The bios settings related to the cpu are at default settings. The only things I have changed are memory related, the xmp profile, 3733mhz for dram frequency and I increased dram voltage to 1.362v, fclk is also set at 1866.. I also set two of the chassis fans to performance and chipset fan to performance..

I'm running the latest bios v1.8 and current chipset driver from amd.
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should be 2 ways to disable it

1, disable global c-state
2, disable p-state 1 onwards
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