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beta bios 6.62 (may be same happen to official bios 6.4) x370 Taichi with 3800x

Hi guys, I notice bios 6.62 has User Interface bug, are you guys experiencing below: -

1. From the old 5 users setting profiles, there's now 10, but 6 to 10 cannot be loaded.
2. If load between 6 to 10 then the UEFI will hang and a reset / power off on will be required.
3. If I change many parameters at once, save and reboot, it will not work = POST failure, but it will no longer boot loop stuck at 33,7b,6a,b6 like bios 6.2 and 6.2A.
4. Now it will mostly auto shutdown, and if not I have to manually shut it down and reboot.
5. If it manages to auto shutdown, it will also auto clear CMOS, ASRock's engr solved the bootloop problem of 6.2 and 6.2A - thank goodness.
6. When it reboot, will be like a new mobo, going through 3 iterations POSTS, FIRST post show code 33,7b,6a,b6, then SECOND post shows code 33,7b,6a,b6 + 27, finally THIRD post shows code 33,7b,6a,b6,27, more more 98, Ax some number and fuola monitor display shows boot up and quickly DEL DEL DEL to enter UEFI.
7. bios 6.62 is fun, because monitor right bottom corners shows POST CODE.
8. 3600mhz B-die HOF all AUTO XMP on 6.62 always fails, it does not know how to set VDDCR_SOC volts, etc etc volts are all wrong and tRFC are stuck at 2166Mhz i.e. may be 250 or lower hence sure post FAIL.
9. I must first run 2133mhz reboot twice in order to be properlly settings SINK in..... then keeping 2133mhz change one section at a time, i.e.
10. Dram volts
11. reboot, if success save profile, then VDDCR_SOC volts,
12. reboot, if success save profile, then VDDP, VDDG IOD CCD volts,
13. reboot, if success save profile, then secondary timings tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4 most important because AUTO sure fails because it does not how to calculate, because it doesn't know how to guess and set like bios 6.2 was really smart with tRFC and VDDCR_SOC volts and VDDP, VDDG, etc.
14. reboot, if success save profile, then primary timings
15. reboot, if success save profile, FINALLY can switch 2133mhz to 3600mhz 1:1 is auto achieved, I don't need to manually do this.

bios 6.62 is hard to use, it's like a girl, it's very moody and particular how to get to 3600 or above.

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16) then from 3600mhz to 3666mhz, as well as tRFC up, especially volts go up, and manual 1:1 is a must now, most probably post FAIL. It cannot accept so many different GROUPS of parameters change.
17) this post FAIL will trigger point 6. written above.
18) when enter clean UEFI 2133mhz, cannot load profile at steps 15. written above, it will post FAIL immediately.
19) must reboot again as 2133mhz, then MAY BE can load profile at steps 15. WHY?
19-A) if all the details settings accumulated up to steps 15 are [to it's liking] then it will POST successfully.
19-B) if one of the settings during the accumulating steps up to 15 are [NOT entirely to it's liking] then it will post FAIL.

If one of the settings is [NOT entirely to it's liking] then why the hell did it worked before?
20) because it's like a girl now, monday it let you teases it and pass, but tuesday she refuses....

somehow I stumble upon the [to it's liking] 3600mhz 66ns latency with 3800x auto and always works but only after 2nd reboot of 2133mhz from a clean new boot 3 iterations post type.

I manages to run 3666mhz 1:1 65ns latency for may be nearly 2 weeks but then slowly start to crash in games, more and more as days go by. Upping voltages did not solve, problem is in timing but I haven't found solution / mathing [to it's liking]

I also manages to run 3733mhz 1:1 64ns latency but only for 3 or 4 days, as usually 1st day all OK, 2nd day may be one crash, but 3rd day will be many many crashes, finally 4th day can't POST.

bios 6.2A on the other hand was rock solid user interface, after clear CMOS can immediately load saved profile and post success, never need to change parameters a bit at a time ..... but this bios causes bootloop 33,7b,6a,b6, clear CMOS jumper and rear button and remove battery does not work, Must pull out all PCIe cards then can clear CMOS and must reboot once without GPU, or most importantly see post code manages to pass 27 reaching into 98 teritory then can replug in GPU etc.

x370 taichi alway seems to need HIGH voltages from 1usmus calculator or more volts here and there.
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Originally posted by Zett Zett wrote:

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VSOC 1,0938 V
CLDO VDDP 0,9474 V
VDDG IOD 0,9976 V

Thank you for reporting. These are nice voltages. I have it running a bit higher as before and no detach yet.
I am still much lower in voltages as ASRocks "auto". Setting 3733 defaults to 1.2V on my 5900x for VSOC for example.
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VSOC 1,0938 V
CLDO VDDP 0,9474 V
VDDG IOD 0,9976 V

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Originally posted by Zett Zett wrote:


After loading the XMP memory profile and fine-tuning the memory, they work at 3733MHz. USB does not cause any problems.

Can you check with ZenTimings or alike where the voltages @3733 are for VSOC, CLDO VDDP, VDDG CCD and VDDG IOD?
I did set mine according to DRAM calculator but ASRock defaults here are much higher.
This is my idea for the cause of USB problems with cold boot. Too low voltages i used.
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MB: X570 Steel Legend
BIOS version: beta L3.72
CPU: 3700X
RAM: 2 x 8GB DDR4-3600 Crucial/Micron BLE8G4D36BEEAK.M8FE1

ASRock writes:
[Beta] L3.72     2021/7/9
1. Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch B
2. Improve USB compatibility

In UEFI Advanced\AMD PBS\AMD Firmware Version
AGESA Version: ComboAM4v2PI 1.2.0.3a

Notes:
After loading the XMP memory profile and fine-tuning the memory, they work at 3733MHz. USB does not cause any problems.
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Originally posted by ThreeDee ThreeDee wrote:


Have you tried running your RAM at default XMP profile and then see if you still have USB issues?

After 4 days running original XMP 3200 i didn't have a single USB detach. It still may come though.
So how is RAM overclocking influencing USB capabilities?
Is it a limit of the CPU, Chipset, RAM or bad BIOS code?
I really want to understand this but have no idea where to start.
For CPU there are changes in Fabric, SOC and VDDG voltages.
Can it be a critical RAM value or voltage?
I hope someone knows better than me.
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Havw you tried to clear the BIOS and gave it reset to default values? And also set your memory to default, not XMP. You can do any tweaking after you have a stable sudtem.
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Hello, since I installed the beta bios of the ASRock b550 PG Velocita, I can't boot into Windows anymore without any problems. And if I get to the login screen, the PC just restarts after I logged in.

Is it possible to downgrade a bios or is there a new beta bios you can install?
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I may try but i have no stability problems at all anymore and i don't see a warning anywhere that says USB doesn't work correctly when the RAM is overclocked.

Edit:
On intel i had AVX offset in the BIOS. Any ideas how to handle multi core AVX sessions?
I have a flac encoder with AVX optimization and using 20 threads bangs at 90°C pretty fast using only 142W without additional PBO limits.
Apps like handbrake video encoding using AVX run around 80°C here.

This forum is only reachable for me a few hours a day here from germany. Am i alone with this?
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Originally posted by pokuly pokuly wrote:

Originally posted by pokuly pokuly wrote:

Originally posted by pokuly pokuly wrote:


Board: B550 Steel Legend
BIOS version: 2.00
CPU: 5900x
RAM: 2x16GB G.Skill B-Die@3733

My generic Fujitsu Siemens USB keyboard already was 2 times not detected on bootup since the 2.00 release. I have to shutdown and start again. A reboot is not enough.
Ryzen Master still shows the wrong value for VDDCR if set in UEFI -> OC Tweaker\External Voltage Settings


I quote myself here because i have to add my USB MX-518 mouse hung itself 2 times since the 2.00 update. It stutters and shortly after losses the key associations done in the gaming software.
It is 2021 and USB simply being broken in a mainstream product is a bad joke.
I regret switching to this AMD crap. I have no idea how i will be able to sell this board with this build in errors.

BETA L2.04 took 3 days before the keyboard was not detected on a cold boot.
I think this happens more often when a device is also connected on the front USB3 onboard connector.


Have you tried running your RAM at default XMP profile and then see if you still have USB issues?
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