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dominicc
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Hi all,
I just got a ASRock Z490M-ITX/ac motherboard and the 4x Toshiba MG07ACA12TE SATA 12TB do not show up on a cold boot. They do not show in the BIOS and they do not show up in any OS that boots from a USB or M.2 NVMe SSD. If the system is reset, either from an OS or by using the reset button, then the drives appear in the BIOS and are seen by OSs. This is not an OS issue, as it happens with Windows, Linux and also in the UEFI bios. The motherboard came with BIOS 1.20, I updated to BIOS 1.30 and the problem persists. System Specs: Motherboard: ASRock Z490M-ITX/ac CPU: Intel Core i3 10100, S 1200, Comet Lake, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 3.6GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo, 6MB Cache, 65W, Retail Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i Low Profile CPU Cooler Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Black, Mini-ITX Case RAM: 16GB (1x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-21300 (2666), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-35, XMP 2.0, 1.2V HDDs: 4x 12TB Toshiba MG07ACA12TE Enterprise Hard Drive, 3.5" HDD, SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 256MB Cache SSDs: 512GB Samsung 950 M.2 NVMe SSD PSU: Corsair SF450 PSU. Other info: Nothing is inserted in the large PCIe slot. Memory is in bank A, closest to the CPU. I've built many PC's before. Help! |
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Here's the output from smartctl for each of the disks which shows the SMART info and HDD firmware versions.
[CODE] root@proxmox:~# smartctl --all /dev/sda smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.34-1-pve] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Toshiba MG07ACA... Enterprise Capacity HDD Device Model: TOSHIBA MG07ACA12TE Serial Number: 60G0A32AF95G LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 a38cab580 Firmware Version: 0101 User Capacity: 12,000,138,625,024 bytes [12.0 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm Form Factor: 3.5 inches Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Fri Oct 16 19:35:24 2020 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 120) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: (1228) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 100 100 001 Pre-fail Always - 7188 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 8 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 100 100 030 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 8 23 Helium_Condition_Lower 0x0023 100 100 075 Pre-fail Always - 0 24 Helium_Condition_Upper 0x0023 100 100 075 Pre-fail Always - 0 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 6 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 11 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 22/33) 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 220 Disk_Shift 0x0002 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 18219009 222 Loaded_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1 223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 224 Load_Friction 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 226 Load-in_Time 0x0026 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 535 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0001 100 100 001 Pre-fail Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. root@proxmox:~# smartctl --all /dev/sdb smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.34-1-pve] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Toshiba MG07ACA... Enterprise Capacity HDD Device Model: TOSHIBA MG07ACA12TE Serial Number: 60H0A02TF95G LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 a38cac7d7 Firmware Version: 0101 User Capacity: 12,000,138,625,024 bytes [12.0 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm Form Factor: 3.5 inches Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Fri Oct 16 19:35:28 2020 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 120) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: (1166) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 100 100 001 Pre-fail Always - 7227 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 8 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Of |
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ok, the forum didn't accept my large post, so here's a link to a file instead.
[URL=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxXiRfEuQqLFZDvecyB01C9qu6rmr86j/view?usp=sharing]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxXiRfEuQqLFZDvecyB01C9qu6rmr86j/view?usp=sharing[/URL] |
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I have emailed Toshiba (TAEC_SPBU_techhelp@taec.toshiba.com) and will post their reply, if I get one.
In the mean-time, if someone at ASRock could confirm the issue, give me any advice or a new beta BIOS to try that would be great. |
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ASRock_TSD
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Dear Dominicc,
Thank you for posting your query to the ASRock forum. We have checked with the only Toshiba 12TB Toshiba MG07ACA12TE in our lab, however, we are not able to duplicate the problem. Please try to connect one HDD at a time and add another if the system detects the HDDs properly. If the problem persists kindly try to connect the 2 pcs of HDD per one SATA power connector to see if it will work. Also, kindly try different SATA cables. With thanks, ASRock TSD |
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I can confirm that: 1. Replacing *ALL* the SATA cables with brand new cables has no effect, same problem. 2. Using each drive by itself, one at a time, on port 1 has no effect, drive not detected. 3. Using each drive by itself, one at a time, on port 2 has no effect, drive not detected. 4. Using each drive by itself, one at a time, on port 3 has no effect, drive not detected. 5. Using each drive by itself, one at a time, on port 4 has no effect, drive not detected. 6. Using pairs of drives, on port 1 and 2 has no effect, drives not detected. 7. Using pairs of drives, on port 3 and 4 has no effect, drives not detected. 8. Using pairs of drives, on port 1 and 3 has no effect, drives not detected. 9. Using pairs of drives, on port 2 and 4 has no effect, drives not detected. For the above tests, the unused drives were not connected to the SATA POWER *and* DATA. What firmware does you drive have? Is it the same as mine? |
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Here's a link to a google photos album showing the system with 1 new SATA cable connected and the unused SATA power cables disconnected.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zXAcaHaPpA7QkT7k6 Also, the original SATA cables can be seen on top of the system. |
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I also note that adding the NMVe to 5 port SATA adapter, as seen in the photo, had no effect on the cold-boot detection. This adapter was only installed *after* the original problem and is used for connecting additional storage devices (1x SSD + 1HDD).
I repeated the tests with it removed and there was no change. |
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dominicc
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I have just added a video to the google drives shared folder showing the system and the problem.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zXAcaHaPpA7QkT7k6 The drives are *never* detected on cold boot, regardless of how they are powered or where they are connected. They are *always* *all* detected on a warm reboot, either via exiting the bios or by rebooting using ctrl+alt+del or by rebooting from within an OS. Please advise. |
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Dear Dominicc,
Thanks for the reply. The Toshiba HDD that we tested is also FW0101. We have some more suggestions for you. 1. Please refer to the page. 21 to clear the CMOS. https://download.asrock.com/Manual/Z490M-ITXac.pdf 2. Please remove all of the storage devices only install the one Toshiba HDD and try. 3. If possible, please try with a different power supply. If the problem persists, kindly contact the store where the motherboard was purchased for further assistance. With thanks, ASRock TSD |
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