Low performance for my PCIe SSD Intel 900P |
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Nightlane
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Please, help me find out what is happening with my system. Optane 900P seems to work at half speed, and the access times are worrisome: 0.04 - 0.05 instead of around 0.1.
My system: Ryzen 1700 with x370 Taichi motherboard. Windows 10. Benchmarks: https://preview.redd.it/xc9sv7xijrfa1.png?width=623&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=baf53cdd8314dc2135619238d5cae58d5d4a6a3c https://preview.redd.it/oceaxwt3jrfa1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=3c8d06dcf6095249ad64bdaaa00e91262ab9bf07 https://preview.redd.it/3s7kw026jrfa1.png?width=704&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6bc74be2cf98fa089f48157f1c5925b2897bc750 Current 900P firmware, supposedly the latest? 2010603. The PCI lanes: ----- PCIE1 (PCIe 2.0 x1 slot) is used for PCI Express x1 lane width cards. PCIE2 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x16 lane width graphics cards. PCIE3 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x8 lane width graphics cards. PCIE4 (PCIe 2.0 x1 slot) is used for PCI Express x1 lane width cards. PCIE5 (PCIe 2.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x4 lane width graphics cards. * If PCIE5 slot is occupied, M2_2 will be disabled ----- https://preview.redd.it/yn7z13i8ezfa1.png?width=1653&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=7e750a4da96820bb704e5601c7b96b64a4f67b9f As far as I see, the PCIe5 seems to be the best place for this drive, as it has an x2 socket, but that PCIe5 seems to be shared between several devices. Anyway, I tried to put the drive into the secondary GPU PCIe3, so I have both the GPU and the 900P with x8 lanes. Better bandwidth, but well, not better access times (and of course, it is limiting the GPU): https://preview.redd.it/0370htw7ykga1.png?width=620&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=c41d52d7ff8bb48f14d695c67ef8ef0e70e20ae5 https://preview.redd.it/qi3c87t0zpga1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=aeccbe162b9f735c8ad1a96bb6e1ddca077f9661 Please, Is this a limitation of this motherboard? or must I install some driver? I have already installed the latest intel drivers for my drive and tried other driver versions as well, but the problem persists. Thank you |
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Nightlane
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Please, how can I fix all this? The PCIe setup I had before moving the 900P: PCIe1: empty M2_1: the Samsung ssd PCIe2: GPU PCIe3: empty PCIe4: sound card PCIe5: 900P M2_2: empty (and unusable with current setup) Currently, with better bandwidth but the same access times and limited GPU: PCIe1: empty M2_1: the Samsung ssd PCIe2: GPU PCIe3: 900P PCIe4: empty PCIe5: sound card M2_2: empty (and unusable with current setup) Drivers? Maybe some type of M2 to PCIe adaptor? |
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Hi @Nightlane
PCIe5: 900P is Gen2, not Gen3 and PCIe5 is going through x370promontory chipset then to CPU, latency highest. PCIe3: 900P goes direct to CPU 8xLANEs but 4x is wasted not used. If you want to reduce latency then move it to PCIe2. If you want even lower latency then buy a convertor M.2 riser to PCIe socket and plug the 900p into M.2_socket_1_riser_adaptor + 12V power mini molex thing. This is the original dedicated Gen3_pcie_4_lanes shortest direct to CPU. GPU running 8xLANEs is not limited, especially if you plat 1440p or 4k they are always GPU bound. Even at 1080p, performance not lost may be just 1%, nothing to cry about. |
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AX750 Optane900P SN770 3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28 XFX SWFT319 6900XT MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz |
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Hi @Nightlane
I used to have 1700x, nearly same as your 1700, it's not strong enough to push the 1080TI. I ran 1700x with Vega64 and it's not enough to saturate PCIe_gen3_8xlanes. In fact 1700x was a perfect match for R9_290x. You need 3700x or higher to push the 1080TI, may be Ryzen5000 would be perfect match. Certainly the 5800x3D can push the 1080TI to whole new height properly. If you get the latest RX7900XTX or higher you will need the lastest Ryzen7000 series, best get the x3D, else the potentials of GPU are not fully utilized. |
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AX750 Optane900P SN770 3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28 XFX SWFT319 6900XT MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz |
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Katana1074
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Any particular reason why you are using the IntelĀ® Optane??Memory User Interface and Driver for System Acceleration 16.8.4.1011 ???
the correct driver for optane 900p is at: https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/products/sku/123628/intel-optane-ssd-900p-series-280gb-12-height-pcie-x4-20nm-3d-xpoint/downloads.html https://downloadmirror.intel.com/762952/SetupNVME.exe regards |
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Nightlane
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Thank you! Very insightful! ok, so, I like the riser option :-). I suppose I should buy this type of thing, https://www.amazon.co.uk/MZHOU-V009S-PLUS-PCIE-Riser-Card-Black16x-NVME/dp/B09FPSC28Y/ And I suppose that x70 taichi M2_1 will be more performant than M2_2, so I should plug the riser there and move the Samsung 970 pro to M2_2. Please, Am I right? About the option of swapping GPU and 900p, I suppose that the possible GPU performance loss is negligible. Right? |
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Nightlane
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Star Citizen, and I am a nerd and a coder, hahaha Thank you! I checked that driver, and then the one you saw, and got +- the same performance. I will reinstall the recommended drivers again. |
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Thank you! I am thinking about upgrading my CPU for one of those 5800X 3D, but later when the home economy is better and I can grab a good deal. Please, do you think I should replace the motherboard as well? Memory? |
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Oh, yeah, and about the riser, I have to find a way to attach it to my computer case, a "Phanteks Enthoo EvolV silver"
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Hi there I have an Intel 900p pcie ad in card they are pcie 3.0 based
here's a link to my asssd score if it helps any... https://imgur.com/mmceU7V |
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