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    Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 2:38am
Hello,

I am thinking about replacing the R5-1400 in my system with an R5-5600 rather than jumping to AM5 given the price. Seems like a good and cheap drop in upgrade to keep this system chugging along.

I am on BIOS p5.40 right now. If I am reading correctly, I can flash P7.00 [Beta] and then L8.02. Is that correct, or are there any bridge BIOS' I am missing? And to confirm, would I be able to use the 1400 to flash from 5.40 up through L8.02?

Thanks in advance!
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My advice, don't use the 5000 series CPU's, but stick to the CPU support list.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#CPU
5000 sereis is not on the support list and can only function because AMD put that in the Agesa code, and sometimes it works for a short while, and suddenly 1 memory slot stops working, with the Old CPU there is no problem, and when you put the new CPU on an newer board, there is also no problem
Also a new BIOS doesn't mean, that it is always betetr, that is a misperception, many people have.
When your BIOS is 5.40, indeed you need to go to the 7.00 bridge BIOS, then You can update to 8.02.
But You cannot downgrade anymore, once You have 7.00 or above.
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Thanks for your insight. If there is no confidence in the 5k sku's in the b350 boards, then this machine is end of the road. I don't see any reson in adding a 3k series sku to this given how old it is.
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Hi

I have gone same upgrade path on AB350-Pro4.

Flashed BIOS to latest 8.2. Left my 1500X in and it was fine. Then a week later dropped in 5600g.

So far (3 weeks in) no issues.

Going to update Ram from 2x4gb to 2x8gb...and trying to get my head around just what type of Ram this Motherboard/CPU combo will support. Various reports of 2666 to 3200. But Cezanne processor is pretty new territory for this board.
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Don't upgrade the CPU. I've tried a Ryzen 3 4300GE
At least only one core is available instead of four.
Not correct Bios settings and board goes off trying to use booot DVD
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[QUOTE=threadzipper1957] My advice, don't use the 5000 series CPU's, but stick to the CPU support list.
[URL=https://www.asrock.[/QUOTE]

Here is the reply I got from ASRock. Any comments???

Question: This motherboard is being used as a home surveillance camera build. Can it handle an upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600G processor and a Bios upgrade to handle the Ryzen 5 5600G. What Bios version can it be upgraded to?

ASRock: Yes, the board support the type of processor 5600G , but you can not update your motherboard BIOs if you have installed A12 CPU , will not allowed you to do it.

To update your BIOS you need a newer CPU model like 3400G or 3600X

To update from the BIOs 5.00 you have , you need to do two steps .

Update your BIOS to 5.40 first and then you can update to L8.02



Bios download link

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS



How to update

https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10

Comment: I suppose a 5600X will operate just as well as a 5600G. I also have a straight Ryzen 5 3600

Any comments overall?????

Thanks, Dekade

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[QUOTE=threadzipper1957] My advice, don't use the 5000 series CPU's, but stick to the CPU support list.
[URL=https://www.asrock.[/QUOTE]

Here is the reply I got from ASRock. Any comments???

Question: This motherboard is being used as a home surveillance camera build. Can it handle an upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600G processor and a Bios upgrade to handle the Ryzen 5 5600G. What Bios version can it be upgraded to?

ASRock: Yes, the board support the type of processor 5600G , but you can not update your motherboard BIOs if you have installed A12 CPU , will not allowed you to do it.

To update your BIOS you need a newer CPU model like 3400G or 3600X

To update from the BIOs 5.00 you have , you need to do two steps .

Update your BIOS to 5.40 first and then you can update to L8.02



Bios download link

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS



How to update

https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10

Comment: I suppose a 5600X will operate just as well as a 5600G. I also have a straight Ryzen 5 3600

Any comments overall?????

Thanks, Dekade
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AsRock doesn't always keep the "CPU Support List" up-to-date.
You can see that their list contains ZERO Renoir, Vermeer nor Cezanne CPUs, but the BIOS update page says, "Support Renoir, Vermeer, and Cezanne CPU."

You have a 1400 (Summit Ridge / original Zen), so I think it'll work just fine.
Go to 7.00 first, and then go to either 7.40 (latest non-beta) or L8.02 (latest beta).

If I were you, I'd do:
1) Flash to 7.00 (bridge BIOS)
2) Flash to 7.40 (latest non-beta)
3) Swap CPU, clear CMOS.
4) Flash to L8.02 (latest beta)
5) Be happy. And update again when AsRock releases another update (AGESA 1.2.0.A or maybe even newer).

The reason for doing yet another flashing after swapping the CPU to 5600 is because, as I understand it, there is some addressing limitation with older CPUs, so I'm not sure if 1400 would be able to write the entire BIOS space.

Also note, R5-5600 (Vermeer) is entirely different beast from R5-5600G (Cezanne). I've heard of more issues going from pre-Matisse to Cezanne. I've not heard of any issues going to Matisse or Vermeer. Something about the way APU uses the BIOS addressing space. That's why some of the BIOS pages say you have to use Matisse or newer to flash in order to support Renoir/Cezanne.
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Originally posted by eccential eccential wrote:

AsRock doesn't always keep the "CPU Support List" up-to-date.
You can see that their list contains ZERO Renoir, Vermeer nor Cezanne CPUs, but the BIOS update page says, "Support Renoir, Vermeer, and Cezanne CPU."

You have a 1400 (Summit Ridge / original Zen), so I think it'll work just fine.
Go to 7.00 first, and then go to either 7.40 (latest non-beta) or L8.02 (latest beta).

If I were you, I'd do:
1) Flash to 7.00 (bridge BIOS)
2) Flash to 7.40 (latest non-beta)
3) Swap CPU, clear CMOS.
4) Flash to L8.02 (latest beta)
5) Be happy. And update again when AsRock releases another update (AGESA 1.2.0.A or maybe even newer).

The reason for doing yet another flashing after swapping the CPU to 5600 is because, as I understand it, there is some addressing limitation with older CPUs, so I'm not sure if 1400 would be able to write the entire BIOS space.

Also note, R5-5600 (Vermeer) is entirely different beast from R5-5600G (Cezanne). I've heard of more issues going from pre-Matisse to Cezanne. I've not heard of any issues going to Matisse or Vermeer. Something about the way APU uses the BIOS addressing space. That's why some of the BIOS pages say you have to use Matisse or newer to flash in order to support Renoir/Cezanne.



Hey, I have the same mobo and I'm planning to switch from Ryzen 5 1600 to AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 100-100000063WOF.

I was hoping you can clarify point 3, namely clear the CMOS part. Is this a necessary step or is it just precautionary measure?

I saw you mention in another topic that for most am4/amd CPUs chances are you can use your current fan for new CPU. Do you happen to know if that's the case with Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 7 5800X?

I would like to upgrade my 2x8GB DDR4-2666 (1333Mhz) to 2x16GB but I'm somewhat confused based on the information provided here. If you could share some thoughts on that too, would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally posted by spost spost wrote:

Hey, I have the same mobo and I'm planning to switch from Ryzen 5 1600 to AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 100-100000063WOF.

I was hoping you can clarify point 3, namely clear the CMOS part. Is this a necessary step or is it just precautionary measure?

I saw you mention in another topic that for most am4/amd CPUs chances are you can use your current fan for new CPU. Do you happen to know if that's the case with Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 7 5800X?

I would like to upgrade my 2x8GB DDR4-2666 (1333Mhz) to 2x16GB but I'm somewhat confused based on the information provided here. If you could share some thoughts on that too, would be greatly appreciated.


I guess clearing CMOS isn't necessary, but all the settings would be gone after a BIOS update anyway, so you aren't making anything harder.

I believe the original Ryzen 5 1600 came with a Wraith Spire cooler? If it's the original, it would even have the copper vapor chamber. It's a decent cooler, but I wouldn't use it with Ryzen 7 5800X. Wraith Spire would be fine on a 65W TDP (88W max) CPUs, like Ryzen 7 5700X, but 5800X is an 105W TDP CPU. You might be okay if you force it to 65W TDP in the BIOS, but then, why bother with 5800X?

2x16GB should work fine. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
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